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09-21-2013 07:14 PM
#1521
Originally Posted by PatientlyWaiting
I bought the dermaroller to see if it helps minoxidil absorb better, not for the skin wounding science behind it.
Dan, minoxidil+dut I started those two at the same time in March 13th of this year, I saw results in about 3 weeks, but it halted/lost ground 4 months in due to alopecia areata coming back in about 8 different spots all over the top of my head. I have yet to recover the hair I regrew from dut+rogaine but now in the 4th day I am seeing a little bit of recovery on my hairline, but I am not excited at all because I have seen this before.
Back to Axel, I am just posting in this thread because I am using microneedling for MBP. I am not following the instructions in the opening post/study. I want to purposely do it like this, I read the study already.
I've been using my clobetasol prop foam
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09-21-2013 08:10 PM
#1522
Just finished my derma-rolling session for this week and man was the pain more excruciating today than in prior past weeks. Had to take multiple breaks and bite on a towel as I rolled. Man, the stuff I do in an attempt to save my hair. I'm actually embarrassed with myself that I'm spending a Saturday night applying topicals and cutting my scalp.
I changed it up and applied Lipogaine right after. As expected, the liquid stung the moment it touched my skin. So far, no Minox sides to report with this method.
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09-21-2013 08:43 PM
#1523
Originally Posted by hiilikeyourbeard
wish this worked in conjunction with something besides minox
Who says it doesn't. There are some people not using topicals or trying castor oil, sulfur I think, etc. It's hard to decide what alternative is best but there certainly are alternatives.
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09-21-2013 08:54 PM
#1524
Originally Posted by RisingFist
Who says it doesn't. There are some people not using topicals or trying castor oil, sulfur I think, etc. It's hard to decide what alternative is best but there certainly are alternatives.
There's some evidence that DHT inhibits release of WNT proteins. Taking finasteride may actually promote WNT, a la Histogen and give increased growth factors to help regrow hairs.
I've been tempted to take Finasteride once a week just to see how it effects the wounding theory.
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09-22-2013 04:55 AM
#1525
Originally Posted by hellouser
There's some evidence that DHT inhibits release of WNT proteins. Taking finasteride may actually promote WNT, a la Histogen and give increased growth factors to help regrow hairs.
I've been tempted to take Finasteride once a week just to see how it effects the wounding theory.
Topical fin and rolling? I understand their would be side effects.
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09-22-2013 05:15 AM
#1526
squeegee the french canuck guy on hair loss talk sees major improvements...
maybe someone registered there asks him for pics?
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09-22-2013 06:24 AM
#1527
Originally Posted by MackJames
I've been using my clobetasol prop foam
Clobetasol may also be a pdg2 antagonist. I have AA like patiently. I was prescribed clobetasol for psoriasis of the scalp. I've been applying it to my scalp for about a week.
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09-22-2013 07:43 AM
#1528
Originally Posted by hellouser
There's some evidence that DHT inhibits release of WNT proteins. Taking finasteride may actually promote WNT, a la Histogen and give increased growth factors to help regrow hairs.
I've been tempted to take Finasteride once a week just to see how it effects the wounding theory.
I wouldn't recommend it but if you wanna gamble...Why not valerian root extract in liquid form. I think I posted a study early in this thread. It increases wnt signaling (even taking the oral supplement for deep sleep helps). There are a few supplements that help with wnt signaling. I don't know them from the top of my head but should be easy to find. What we should also see is FGF supplements since it seems to be the new player in the puzzle. I know some are going hardcore and getting growth factors from kane but I would like to try a more natural approach if possible.
Also, where are Canadians ordering their rollers from? I want to buy 2. One 0.5mm for once a week rolling and one 1.5mm for once a month. If anyone has recommendations since it's expensive here. Don't want it too cheap where some needles might be stuck in your head, that would be a nightmare.
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09-22-2013 08:00 AM
#1529
I should post this study in here as well http://www.omicsonline.org/2155-9554...9554-3-138.php
It is very interesting. The author has gmail so you can ask for details if you want. Please read and discuss. It's quite fascinating and completely free to incorporate.
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09-22-2013 09:06 AM
#1530
Originally Posted by RisingFist
Not very impressed by this study. No real stats, and language such as: "The rubbing motion promotes relaxation and feels good, thus increasing the production of good chemicals." is very unscientific and unfounded.
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