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    Stoicone;

    Thanks for being the voice of reason in this thread lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stocione View Post
    This isn't the only forum on the web and on this topic, it's the furthest behind - despite the many, many posts. I'm not going to link to other hair loss forums here so just take a look for yourself.
    I've been at the other big 3 forums that start with "hair" and don't see any progress pics in their dermarolling threads, *** is basically this same topic, even the same usernames

    Are the private forums seeing anything worth to report?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigentries View Post
    Are the private forums seeing anything worth to report?
    Oddly enough, theres very little movement with dermarolling in the private forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellouser View Post
    A lot of you guys need to read thoroughly:
    Is that directed at me? Because I wasn't responding to his comment, I agreed with it. I was responding to this comment:

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicks
    Yes it is obvious that parts of the study would be missing, No company would give out proprietary information.
    That's why I quoted it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stocione View Post
    My point is this, why post negative thoughts when you legitimately don't have a leg to stand on? I'd understand if we were at the three month mark or even at the two month mark with no one reporting anything. Instead, those individuals with a shaved head and at the six week mark ARE reporting positive things. Most of the rest of us either aren't that far into treatment or don't have shaved heads.
    Most of scepticism is because, essentially, there have been many experimental trials carried out by forum users over the years with no success. Trials that may have been theoretically 'correct' but turned out to not work in practice, for whichever number of countless possible reasons. Also, in the eyes of many, this trial has a 'too good to be true' element about it, as in the amount of regrowth from a common off-the-shelf treatment combined with a cheap off-the-shelf tool. It's not a surprise that many here are quite wary.

    So keep chill and wait it out. Also, I get the feeling that you expect everyone to have a +3 response to this treatment protocol. If so, you are certainly going to be disappointed as the results showed a quite significant standard deviation. Most people here will likely only see a +1 or +2 response.
    I wonder if users of 5-ARIs will be most likely to be in the better response group, thinking aloud for a second.

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    Stay patient guys! I'm at 8 weeks and I definitely see results. But the only reason I can see it is because I shave my head down with a zero guard and have a distinct receding hairline, and even then it's not really obvious on camera. I had velous hairs at the end of week one and now some terminal hairs are definitely growing in. I'm sure there are others getting results too. I'll post pics when it's more obvious. Definitely don't expect pics with a full head of hair though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koga View Post
    Stay patient guys! I'm at 8 weeks and I definitely see results. But the only reason I can see it is because I shave my head down with a zero guard and have a distinct receding hairline, and even then it's not really obvious on camera. I had velous hairs at the end of week one and now some terminal hairs are definitely growing in. I'm sure there are others getting results too. I'll post pics when it's more obvious. Definitely don't expect pics with a full head of hair though.
    Are you also adding some growth factors of any kind?

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    I've quit smoking for this; I'm two weeks out. So as not to affect collagen levels and such.

    Not easy, but damn if hair loss isn't motivation to quit, I don't know what is.
    Second roller session tomorrow, using the 1.5mm.

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    I was reading other forums and people express doubts based on the angle th dermaroller makes contact with the skin.

    Apparently oblique vs perpendicular makes a big difference, the latter being better, and they say the dermaroller doesn't guarantee that 90 degree angle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thinning87 View Post
    I was reading other forums and people express doubts based on the angle th dermaroller makes contact with the skin.

    Apparently oblique vs perpendicular makes a big difference, the latter being better, and they say the dermaroller doesn't guarantee that 90 degree angle

    What is their basis for this?
    But if you think about it, the needles from a derma roller might enter obliquely, but as the roller continues, it inevitably has to hit a 90 angle before exiting doesn't it?

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