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  • StayThick
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 624

    #16
    There are no studies or efficient evidence that PRP has any positive impact on hair.

    PRP has been available for many years in other applications. The application of hair is still relatively new with more and more doctors no longer even offering the procedure. That alone speaks volumes.

    I, myself had it done 6 months ago. I can't say it did much of anything, not even maintenance. For $1k, it's not worth me trying it again. For those that wish to try it, by all means. I was desperate for anything to work so I had it done.

    I don't regret it, but for those looking for regrowth or for that "home run" treatment... This is not for you. Save your money.

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    • 0ptimist
      Junior Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 19

      #17
      Chuck,

      You seem to be avoiding the question as to the efficacy of PRP + Acell in general. It's nice to have an example, but one case study is insufficient to make a judgment. For all we know, Viper may be only one out of a hundred patients who saw improvement. Or his result could be typical. We just don't know with the limited information you are providing.


      The fact that you won't given any indication as to what percentage of Dr. Cole's patients achieve success with PRP + Acell is troubling. Any additional information would be appreciated.

      Thanks.

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      • 0ptimist
        Junior Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 19

        #18
        StayThick, can you tell us any more information about your procedure. Did it involve both PRP + Acell?

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        • Breaking Bald
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 610

          #19
          Originally posted by 0ptimist
          Chuck,

          You seem to be avoiding the question as to the efficacy of PRP + Acell in general. It's nice to have an example, but one case study is insufficient to make a judgment.
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          • 35YrsAfter
            Doctor Representative
            • Aug 2012
            • 1421

            #20
            Originally posted by 0ptimist
            Chuck,

            You seem to be avoiding the question as to the efficacy of PRP + Acell in general. It's nice to have an example, but one case study is insufficient to make a judgment. For all we know, Viper may be only one out of a hundred patients who saw improvement. Or his result could be typical. We just don't know with the limited information you are providing.


            The fact that you won't given any indication as to what percentage of Dr. Cole's patients achieve success with PRP + Acell is troubling. Any additional information would be appreciated.

            Thanks.
            Dr. Cole began using ACell because it's an FDA approved regenerative product that improves the appearance of FUE donor extraction sites. It reduces hypopigmentation and improves blood vessel formation. We are also seeing on average around 50% follicle regeneration in the donor areas where ACell is used. I believe Dr. Cole began using PRP to improve healing.

            I got an email on Saturday from a patient who just had beard hair extractions. He said the extraction sites disappeared after 4 days, and healing was much quicker than his experience with previous surgeries where ACell and PRP were not used.

            Dr. Cole recently received an invitation to participate in a PRP study. Even the doctor to doctor hair transplant publication we receive, recently commented on the lack of PRP studies. There really aren't any formal studies that I'm aware of. Should there be? Of course. I was excited about our patient's improvement. He is excited. It worked for him and we will do our best to determine how to make these treatments as effective as possible.

            Of course it needs to be determined which PRP formulation is most effective. Dr. Cole uses the Angel system that allows for many variations in the concentration. Also, how effective is PRP without ACell? Any study needs to be standardized. Do Avodart and Rogaine enhance the effects? These are questions that need to be answered.
            Last edited by 35YrsAfter; 02-23-2015, 10:39 AM.

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            • 35YrsAfter
              Doctor Representative
              • Aug 2012
              • 1421

              #21
              Originally posted by StayThick
              There are no studies or efficient evidence that PRP has any positive impact on hair.
              PRP has been available for many years in other applications. The application of hair is still relatively new with more and more doctors no longer even offering the procedure. That alone speaks volumes.
              When PRP treatment doesn't work, it benefits everyone to determine why. I posted our patient interview so he could talk about medications he currently uses. In the video, he mentions Rogaine and Avodart. He also mentioned that he had the best result from the treatment he had in 2012 as opposed to his first treatment in 2011. Dr. Cole used a different PRP / ACell formulation in 2012.

              I was 18 once and remember the depressing proposition of being bald by the time I was 30. It was a sinking sense of despair, like years were about to be trimmed off of my life. Most reputable hair restoration physicians won't perform a hair transplant on any man under 26-29. I'm thinking from my own perspective... If I were 21 again (in 2013), I would consider Rogaine and PRP /ACell treatment. I'm not sure about Avodart but there are many people who swear by it. I'm considering ACell / PRP treatment at my advanced age. I need help in my donor area with regards to density.

              35YrsAfter works at Dr. Cole's office
              Last edited by 35YrsAfter; 02-22-2015, 03:38 PM.

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              • 0ptimist
                Junior Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 19

                #22
                You gave a percentage for donor regeneration with Acell, but we are asking for this kind of average with regards to PRP + Acell as a stand alone treatment.

                Can you give us an estimate of the success rate for PRP + Acell as a stand alone treatment? I don't mean to be a broken record here, but this is kind of important for those who are considering the treatment.

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                • 35YrsAfter
                  Doctor Representative
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 1421

                  #23
                  The other day at work I was depressed because of a remark someone made about my hair looking thin in the back. I'm still self conscious about the appearance of my hair. I'm a tough case. I went home that night and mentioned to my wife that I was feeling down about my hair and she said come to think of it, your hair really sucks, can I have a divorce?

                  Just kidding. She said, you look fine it's no big deal. It's great to have someone in your life who loves you the way you are. There ARE some great women out there and some women even find baldness sexy. I had a lady tell me that not long ago.

                  35YrsAfter works at Dr. Cole's office
                  Last edited by 35YrsAfter; 02-22-2015, 03:38 PM.

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                  • 35YrsAfter
                    Doctor Representative
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 1421

                    #24
                    Originally posted by 0ptimist
                    You gave a percentage for donor regeneration with Acell, but we are asking for this kind of average with regards to PRP + Acell as a stand alone treatment.

                    Can you give us an estimate of the success rate for PRP + Acell as a stand alone treatment? I don't mean to be a broken record here, but this is kind of important for those who are considering the treatment.
                    Tomorrow I will provide as much information on stand alone PRP / ACell success rates as we have available. Most of our patients who have PRP / Acell treatments receive it with their FUE surgery.

                    No broken record impressions here. People should be skeptical and ask questions.

                    35YrsAfter works at Dr. Cole's office
                    Last edited by 35YrsAfter; 02-22-2015, 03:39 PM.

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                    • Conpecia
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 911

                      #25
                      I am in the Atlanta area and am 28 years old. I'm not too far along in my mpb (NW2.7 with thinning crown) and would love to benefit from this treatment even if that means simply keeping my hair as is. I take Rogaine foam and am experimenting with pgd2 blockers, but the only DHT blocker I can handle is keto. I'd gladly document my results in a similar fashion as the guy in the video. If nothing else it would give us another case study...

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                      • 35YrsAfter
                        Doctor Representative
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 1421

                        #26
                        Conpecia:

                        I will speak with Dr. Cole today and get more information. Dr. Cole didn't ask me to create a video in order to sell PRP / ACell treatments. I was excited about our patient's results as he is and decided to shoot and post the video on my own, to illustrate a point of study worthy of further investigation. In other words, over a 6 year period, this man's hair loss should have been worse, not improved. Can we duplicate this result? That's why I included in the video, mention of the medications our patient is taking.

                        Sorry to be repetitious, but the question in my mind relates to Rogaine and Avodart enhancing the effects of ACell / PRP treatments.

                        I just asked our RN how many patients we have seen in the last year having stand-alone ACell / PRP treatments. She told me 4, perhaps 5. As I mentioned earlier, Dr. Cole began using ACell and PRP because both products provide improved healing. In other words, nearly all of our patients who have received ACell / PRP treatments have had the treatments on their FUE surgery day.

                        ACell and PRP show great promise in my opinion. Further studies will definitely be worth the effort.

                        35YrsAfter works at Dr. Cole's office
                        Last edited by 35YrsAfter; 02-22-2015, 03:39 PM.

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                        • 0ptimist
                          Junior Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 19

                          #27
                          Thanks for the additional info. Chuck. We know Viper got good results. Do you have any indication as to the results of the other 3-4 people who had stand alone PRP + Acell treatment?

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                          • 35YrsAfter
                            Doctor Representative
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 1421

                            #28
                            Originally posted by 0ptimist
                            Thanks for the additional info. Chuck. We know Viper got good results. Do you have any indication as to the results of the other 3-4 people who had stand alone PRP + Acell treatment?
                            We had five stand-alone ACell / PRP patients within the last year. I was able to reach two today by phone, other than our patient I posted. One of the men I spoke with said he noticed an improvement behind his hairline in the frontal area. He is a patient with reasonably thick hair on top and does the treatments for maintenance. Our other patient I spoke with on the phone noticed some benefit but nothing dramatic. I asked our two patients what medications they were taking. Both use Rogaine but neither use Propecia or Avodart.

                            We are seeing early growth and excellent healing when ACell and PRP are used on the day of FUE surgery. See 3 1/2 month post-op photo below. Our patient had 2840 FUE grafts placed on 03-20-13.

                            35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
                            Cole Hair Transplant
                            1045 Powers Place
                            Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
                            Phone 678-566-1011
                            Please feel free to call or email me with any questions.
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                            Last edited by 35YrsAfter; 02-22-2015, 03:39 PM.

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                            • 0ptimist
                              Junior Member
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 19

                              #29
                              Thanks for the information Chuck. Good to know your office is having success with the procedure.

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                              • antman
                                Junior Member
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 6

                                #30
                                Originally posted by 0ptimist
                                You gave a percentage for donor regeneration with Acell, but we are asking for this kind of average with regards to PRP + Acell as a stand alone treatment.

                                Can you give us an estimate of the success rate for PRP + Acell as a stand alone treatment? I don't mean to be a broken record here, but this is kind of important for those who are considering the treatment.
                                I have some results for PRP




                                Source:
                                Enhanced effect of platelet-rich plasma containing a new carrier on hair growth (Takikawa et al, 2011)
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