Fear of Finasteride

[drybone]

Hey dude.

I fought this fight with these guys last year. They come in waves. We go weeks , even months without them but when one pops up they all seem to come out of the woodwork.

These are guys who went too bald so when they tried it , it didnt do anything or was way too late. And some are the guys who had side effects so they couldnt continue. Still others took it religiously, and it did nothing for them or they think it did nothing.

You are absolutely correct. They are here to share their pain and hope you have pain too. They dont want you to succeed . If you fail, it justified why they failed.

So ignore them. This has been talked about over and over and its always the same horsecrap . 4% of men get noticeable side effects that could cause you to stop taking it. Long term effects are urban legend.

[DannyBoyy7]

Im pretty sure the people who say fin is bad etc mean no god damn harm maybe they are trying to look out for others cause fin messed them up and they are just warning others...yeah maybe some are to strict maybe some are over the top etc but its only cause they are probably trying to help would you rather they lie and say fin dont hurt you?...you guys have a brain use it its just opinions on here its up to you lot what you want to do no one is forcing anyone to not have fin...it is THAT simple they only stating the truth that fin can(theres a chance you be fine) mess you up but end of the day it is YOU who has the last word it is THAT simple.

[Dan26]

im pretty sure the people who say fin is bad etc mean no god damn harm maybe they are trying to look out for others cause fin messed them up and they are just warning others...yeah maybe some are to strict maybe some are over the top etc but its only cause they are probably trying to help would you rather they lie and say fin dont hurt you?...you guys have a brain use it its just opinions on here its up to you lot what you want to do no one is forcing anyone to not have fin...it is that simple they only stating the truth that fin can(theres a chance you be fine) mess you up but end of the day it is you who has the last word it is that simple.

+100

[drybone]

Im pretty sure the people who say fin is bad etc mean no god damn harm maybe they are trying to look out for others cause fin messed them up and they are just warning others...yeah maybe some are to strict maybe some are over the top etc but its only cause they are probably trying to help would you rather they lie and say fin dont hurt you?...you guys have a brain use it its just opinions on here its up to you lot what you want to do no one is forcing anyone to not have fin...it is THAT simple they only stating the truth that fin can(theres a chance you be fine) mess you up but end of the day it is YOU who has the last word it is THAT simple.

Sure

Here is the formula:

1)Starts out that you state your opinion.

2)Then its becomes 'common knowledge' the stuff is bad for you

3)Then 'you cant have kids'

4) Then then feel brave enough to start telling you the mythical long term permanent side effects. Even if you stop!

5) When asked if this was true why dont the doctors yank it off the shelves, they trot out the old 'grand conspiracy' theory that it makes them too much money so they cover up the truth like an episode of the x-files.

So we have to come and bang you on the head, pull you back to reality and tell you 4% experience noticeable side effects. Everyone in the 4% can taper back or just go off it.

They dont need you guys to tell them the evils of side effects. They can read the damn warning label off the bottle themselves.

[Dan26]

^^^Completely misinterpreted/misunderstood his post and took it out of context.

If you get sides from fin, you post your experience on this forum, just like the people who have positive experiences. Can't be faulted for that. Ultimately its up to the individual to do their own due diligence and decide what is best for them.

My personal opinion; if hairloss bothers you, at least give it a try...be smart about it, get tests perhaps start om low dose etc

[DannyBoyy7]

^^^completely misinterpreted/misunderstood his post and took it out of context.

If you get sides from fin, you post your experience on this forum, just like the people who have positive experiences. Can't be faulted for that. Ultimately its up to the individual to do their own due diligence and decide what is best for them.

My personal opinion; if hairloss bothers you, at least give it a try...be smart about it, get tests perhaps start om low dose etc

+100

[hiilikeyourbeard]

man I've tried fin 4 times now at different doses and days and it still messes me up. sucks.

[drybone]

^^^Completely misinterpreted/misunderstood his post and took it out of context.

If you get sides from fin, you post your experience on this forum, just like the people who have positive experiences. Can't be faulted for that. Ultimately its up to the individual to do their own due diligence and decide what is best for them.

My personal opinion; if hairloss bothers you, at least give it a try...be smart about it, get tests perhaps start om low dose etc

Its not what they do. They dont just post their experience and move on. They drone on and on about it.

I WISH that is all they did

Trust me.

So have at it. I cant stop you. I can call you out on it. Cant stop you.

[drybone]

man I've tried fin 4 times now at different doses and days and it still messes me up. sucks.

I definitely would stop taking it. After like the second time at most. Sorry it didnt work out for you.

Works great for 96% of us though

(yes I have had this exact same exchange 50 times now )

[Dan26]

Agree drybone, but there is also the odd person who completely disregards the side effects and acts very negatively towards the innocent people who have atleast given it a shot but it didn't work out. Your not one of those guys, but they do exist.

I say this as someone who wishes they started fin earlier!

[Notcoolanymore]

Its not what they do. They dont just post their experience and move on. They drone on and on about it.

I WISH that is all they did

Trust me.

So have at it. I cant stop you. I can call you out on it. Cant stop you.

Drybone hit the nail on the head with his last 3 posts. I don't have a problem at all with people giving their experience while using propecia. But when statements are made calling the drug "poison", that is not helping people. When statistics are falsified to make people believe your chance of getting sides is 60%, that is not helping anybody. 90% of the contribution from these guys are comments about how fin destroyed their lives. They try to explain how they were studs or borderline porno stars before fin and now they suffer from ED, its just ridiculous and BS.

Again, like I said before, this site should be a place where people can come to and get help for their hair loss and these guys are turning it into a place where guys come to and are frightened away from the meds that can work. If they want to preach an anti fin message, there is already a site for that. If they want to preach to just go bald and be happy with it, there is a site for that too. This is bald truth talk, people come here for the truth about balding and treatments, lets keep it that way.

[Notcoolanymore]

If there are any guys reading this who are considering taking finasteride please do proper research. There are clinical studies that have been done where the incidents of side effects have been below 5%. Those that did unfortunately get sides were back to normal after stopping the use of the drug. Another thing to keep in mind is that finasteride has been in use for 20 years. Why is it that now, all of a sudden we are hearing about these debilitating sides being so common? If you google propecia sides you will find new stories and articles. If this drug has been so dangerous there should be stories dating back to 20 years ago.

Just do your research guys. Look for clinical studies. Talk to doctors that have prescribed the drug. Base your decision on accurate information, not internet garbage.

[Notcoolanymore]

Im pretty sure the people who say fin is bad etc mean no god damn harm maybe they are trying to look out for others cause fin messed them up and they are just warning others...yeah maybe some are to strict maybe some are over the top etc but its only cause they are probably trying to help would you rather they lie and say fin dont hurt you?...you guys have a brain use it its just opinions on here its up to you lot what you want to do no one is forcing anyone to not have fin...it is THAT simple they only stating the truth that fin can(theres a chance you be fine) mess you up but end of the day it is YOU who has the last word it is THAT simple.

Yes I understand this, but unfortunately most guys don't. They take what these guys are writing as fact and are defeated before they even start the drug. They are so frightened by the garbage that these guys spread that they take the drug and instead of believing sides are rare, they wait for them to happen. When anything does happen like "ball ache", which they have probably had hundreds of times before propecia, they jump off the drug. Another propecia opponent is created, who most likely didn't even have sides caused by propecia. We have a guy who is now going to waste time and continue to lose hair. We now have a guy that is going to waste money on experimental crap that isn't going to work. With every hair lost this guy will get more and more bitter which is the key prerequisite to joining the anti fin army.

[Notcoolanymore]

Wanted to bump this thread. I have noticed many threads from newbies wanting to do something about their hair loss. Many of them have concerns about about Finasteride sides. I'm not going to get into another war on fin sides, we all know they can be very real.

I have posted a link below to my intro thread. I just posted my latest comparison pics. I definitely have some regrowth. I am not saying my hair looks great or even good, but I have regrown some hair in only 6 months of fin use(7 months minox). In my opinion, I think it was worth the risk and only wish I would have started on fin when I first started losing hair.

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=12896&page=2

[awesome1]

If there are any guys reading this who are considering taking finasteride please do proper research. There are clinical studies that have been done where the incidents of side effects have been below 5%. Those that did unfortunately get sides were back to normal after stopping the use of the drug. Another thing to keep in mind is that finasteride has been in use for 20 years. Why is it that now, all of a sudden we are hearing about these debilitating sides being so common? If you google propecia sides you will find new stories and articles. If this drug has been so dangerous there should be stories dating back to 20 years ago.

Just do your research guys. Look for clinical studies. Talk to doctors that have prescribed the drug. Base your decision on accurate information, not internet garbage.

I have been trying, and am having difficult times finding conclusive studies on the safety of the drug. There have been 8 pages of bickering and nothing conclusive from you guys. Can any of you substantiate your claims? I made a topic the other day stating my reservations and continued to get hammered with anecdotal evidence, which will generally only reflect your own experience with the drug.

That said, here's an interesting article I saw today that is related: http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2014...g-it-will-work

That said, this was conducted with a migraine medication, Maxalt, and I'm sure the same effects carries over to some degree with other drugs. I am just concerned with messing with my hormones which is something ultimately cosmetic (though of course I realize the mental issues that can come along from something as deflating as MPB)