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    Quote Originally Posted by drybone View Post
    Its not what they do. They dont just post their experience and move on. They drone on and on about it.

    I WISH that is all they did

    Trust me.

    So have at it. I cant stop you. I can call you out on it. Cant stop you.
    Drybone hit the nail on the head with his last 3 posts. I don't have a problem at all with people giving their experience while using propecia. But when statements are made calling the drug "poison", that is not helping people. When statistics are falsified to make people believe your chance of getting sides is 60%, that is not helping anybody. 90% of the contribution from these guys are comments about how fin destroyed their lives. They try to explain how they were studs or borderline porno stars before fin and now they suffer from ED, its just ridiculous and BS.

    Again, like I said before, this site should be a place where people can come to and get help for their hair loss and these guys are turning it into a place where guys come to and are frightened away from the meds that can work. If they want to preach an anti fin message, there is already a site for that. If they want to preach to just go bald and be happy with it, there is a site for that too. This is bald truth talk, people come here for the truth about balding and treatments, lets keep it that way.

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    If there are any guys reading this who are considering taking finasteride please do proper research. There are clinical studies that have been done where the incidents of side effects have been below 5%. Those that did unfortunately get sides were back to normal after stopping the use of the drug. Another thing to keep in mind is that finasteride has been in use for 20 years. Why is it that now, all of a sudden we are hearing about these debilitating sides being so common? If you google propecia sides you will find new stories and articles. If this drug has been so dangerous there should be stories dating back to 20 years ago.

    Just do your research guys. Look for clinical studies. Talk to doctors that have prescribed the drug. Base your decision on accurate information, not internet garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyBoyy7 View Post
    Im pretty sure the people who say fin is bad etc mean no god damn harm maybe they are trying to look out for others cause fin messed them up and they are just warning others...yeah maybe some are to strict maybe some are over the top etc but its only cause they are probably trying to help would you rather they lie and say fin dont hurt you?...you guys have a brain use it its just opinions on here its up to you lot what you want to do no one is forcing anyone to not have fin...it is THAT simple they only stating the truth that fin can(theres a chance you be fine) mess you up but end of the day it is YOU who has the last word it is THAT simple.
    Yes I understand this, but unfortunately most guys don't. They take what these guys are writing as fact and are defeated before they even start the drug. They are so frightened by the garbage that these guys spread that they take the drug and instead of believing sides are rare, they wait for them to happen. When anything does happen like "ball ache", which they have probably had hundreds of times before propecia, they jump off the drug. Another propecia opponent is created, who most likely didn't even have sides caused by propecia. We have a guy who is now going to waste time and continue to lose hair. We now have a guy that is going to waste money on experimental crap that isn't going to work. With every hair lost this guy will get more and more bitter which is the key prerequisite to joining the anti fin army.

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    Wanted to bump this thread. I have noticed many threads from newbies wanting to do something about their hair loss. Many of them have concerns about about Finasteride sides. I'm not going to get into another war on fin sides, we all know they can be very real.

    I have posted a link below to my intro thread. I just posted my latest comparison pics. I definitely have some regrowth. I am not saying my hair looks great or even good, but I have regrown some hair in only 6 months of fin use(7 months minox). In my opinion, I think it was worth the risk and only wish I would have started on fin when I first started losing hair.

    http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthr...t=12896&page=2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Notcoolanymore View Post
    If there are any guys reading this who are considering taking finasteride please do proper research. There are clinical studies that have been done where the incidents of side effects have been below 5%. Those that did unfortunately get sides were back to normal after stopping the use of the drug. Another thing to keep in mind is that finasteride has been in use for 20 years. Why is it that now, all of a sudden we are hearing about these debilitating sides being so common? If you google propecia sides you will find new stories and articles. If this drug has been so dangerous there should be stories dating back to 20 years ago.

    Just do your research guys. Look for clinical studies. Talk to doctors that have prescribed the drug. Base your decision on accurate information, not internet garbage.
    I have been trying, and am having difficult times finding conclusive studies on the safety of the drug. There have been 8 pages of bickering and nothing conclusive from you guys. Can any of you substantiate your claims? I made a topic the other day stating my reservations and continued to get hammered with anecdotal evidence, which will generally only reflect your own experience with the drug.

    That said, here's an interesting article I saw today that is related: http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2014...g-it-will-work

    That said, this was conducted with a migraine medication, Maxalt, and I'm sure the same effects carries over to some degree with other drugs. I am just concerned with messing with my hormones which is something ultimately cosmetic (though of course I realize the mental issues that can come along from something as deflating as MPB)

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    Quote Originally Posted by awesome1 View Post
    I have been trying, and am having difficult times finding conclusive studies on the safety of the drug. There have been 8 pages of bickering and nothing conclusive from you guys. Can any of you substantiate your claims?
    Talking about fin?
    Just Google it, this drug has been studied & studied & studied by different universities/companies. You might get gyno, ED, reduced libido, less ejaculate, etc. They might persist for awhile after you quit (except gyno which requires surgery once it sets in)
    Also you might have ball ache for the first few weeks

    This is far from a mysterious drug, people have been on it for 20 years now. Even if it suddenly kills you after 25 years it would basically be worth it to not go bald as a young male
    Good luck w/ your decision

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    Quote Originally Posted by 25 going on 65 View Post
    Talking about fin?
    Just Google it, this drug has been studied & studied & studied by different universities/companies. You might get gyno, ED, reduced libido, less ejaculate, etc. They might persist for awhile after you quit (except gyno which requires surgery once it sets in)
    Also you might have ball ache for the first few weeks

    This is far from a mysterious drug, people have been on it for 20 years now. Even if it suddenly kills you after 25 years it would basically be worth it to not go bald as a young male
    Good luck w/ your decision
    This and that. There are plenty of studies that have been done, along with over 2 decades of use. You aren't going to get very many unbiased opinions here unfortunately. You have the guys for using it: have had success with finasteride with little or no side effects. You have the guys against it: have used it and got sides, or are too afraid to give it a try or stay on it. My recommendation would be to do what I did: go online and research sides, clinical studies and talk to your doctor about the drugs safety, then make your decision based on that info.

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    Of all the sides, gynaecomastia and mental issues would worry me the most. And of course penile shrinkage.. I think I'd rather go bald than suffer those..

    But, I'm seeing a urologist on Friday, maybe he can shed some light on what he thinks I should do, perhaps I'll be prescribed Avodart anyway, have to see.

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    If you are on the line about it you may consider doing what some of have done and that is use a very low dosage and or frequency of dosage.

    A small dosage seems to have halted my balding with no sides so far.

    Sex drive is fine and energy level is fine. I used to be severely overweight and lost it all by running and propecia has not made me fat, though I have slipped a bit but that is my fault by overeating. Speaking of which, I have somewhat inadvertently dis-proven another crazy side I have heard about.

    A few months back a friend that was in my weight loss support group contacted me to asked how I had been doing. I was honest and told her that I had gained about 20 of it back-still not bad considering at one time I was about 100 pounds overweight. She admitted she had gained about 10-12 of hers back.
    We both agreed that we had come to far to to let it go.
    We both agreed to get back on track. To stay motivated, I promised her I would stop shaving until the 20 was gone. I was half way there at Thanksgiving but at Christmas I was around a lot of relatives and food,plus I got sick so I slipped a bit. Bottom line is propecia did not hinder my beard from growing in anyway..in fact I am getting silly duck dynasty comments from friends.
    On a more positive note, despite what I have heard, I have got a lot of positive comments from women about my "big" beard so I may keep it after the 20 is gone.

    So far propecia is working for me and not causing any problems, but I don't blame anyone for being scared as the same thing happened to me years ago, I am just sorry I waited so long. But I am glad I hedged my bets, so to speak and went on a low dosage as it seems to be working for me.

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    Thanks mpb47, remind me please, what dosage and frequency are you on?

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