[K&B] LIQUIVAT FC 550 - What is exactly and what can be its substitute?

[tmw]

Hello everyone

I'd like to get some K&B solution ready-made from my Pharmacy, but they don't have this part of K&B: Luviquat fc 500
Does anyone know how I can get it, or better how can I change it with a similar substance? thank you

P.S.: I got some K&B from Kane but I don't really trust it, it smells very strong, like ammonia...

[clandestine]

In Kane we trust.

[StayThick]

Hello everyone

I'd like to get some K&B solution ready-made from my Pharmacy, but they don't have this part of K&B: Luviquat fc 500
Does anyone know how I can get it, or better how can I change it with a similar substance? thank you

P.S.: I got some K&B from Kane but I don't really trust it, it smells very strong, like ammonia...

I think Kane's KB solution is destroying my eyes. It's either that or the RU I got from him. Thing is, I have not seen bloodshot eyes as a side effect of RU. It has to be the vehicle.

Not sure I trust it either.

[tmw]

StayThick I read your post about your sides...I also think your issues comes from that K&B...maybe we should buy it from MPBT but they never answer and their way of shipping is really slow.
Hope someone can help me about Luviquat

[Boldy]

I think Kane's KB solution is destroying my eyes. It's either that or the RU I got from him. Thing is, I have not seen bloodshot eyes as a side effect of RU. It has to be the vehicle.

Not sure I trust it either.

try a normal ethanol/ glycerin vehicle, and see if it gets better, if not, you should stop RU immediately man.. I had eye problems with Finasteride. and CB-03-01.. so it could be the anti androgen you are taking.

[StayThick]

try a normal ethanol/ glycerin vehicle, and see if it gets better, if not, you should stop RU immediately man.. I had eye problems with Finasteride. and CB-03-01.. so it could be the anti androgen you are taking.

Boldy: what type of eye issues did you encounter. After my 2nd application, literally minutes after it was applied, my eyes became dry and started to get red. Would wake up the next morning with vampire eyes.

I have stopped RU at the moment and will try the alcohol/pg vehicle. If my eyes continue to get irritated..I will drop my RU after barely completing 2 weeks.

I'm so sensitive to anti androgens...it's crazy. It's like my body doesn't want me F'ing with my hormones.

[Boldy]

Boldy: what type of eye issues did you encounter. After my 2nd application, literally minutes after it was applied, my eyes became dry and started to get red. Would wake up the next morning with vampire eyes.

I have stopped RU at the moment and will try the alcohol/pg vehicle. If my eyes continue to get irritated..I will drop my RU after barely completing 2 weeks.

I'm so sensitive to anti androgens...it's crazy. It's like my body doesn't want me F'ing with my hormones.

I haven't been able to take any anti androgen for longer than xx weeks.. My body is to sensitive. check my other posts also on HLH. I have tried literately anything, any fda and experimental treatment. Its now time for the real work (cell based therapy eg, Dermal papilla culture. and or ht/doubling to fix the hairline.


btw, did you tried anything that contains ethanol in the past? like minox? K&B exists mainly of ethanol and water. That should be also what you smell.

[StayThick]

I haven't been able to take any anti androgen for longer than xx weeks.. My body is to sensitive. check my other posts also on HLH. I have tried literately anything, any fda and experimental treatment. Its now time for the real work (cell based therapy eg, Dermal papilla culture. and or ht/doubling to fix the hairline.


btw, did you tried anything that contains ethanol in the past? like minox? K&B exists mainly of ethanol and water. That should be also what you smell.

I have used Rogaine Foam for years and never really had this issue. Least not to this extent..

Boldy: stupid question, I see mpb treatments sells a 2oz ethanol/pg mix. Can't I just buy that and measure out 7ml to make my weekly batch? Will it still contain the proper mixture?..I believe I'm over thinking this because majority mix it themselves, but for $8 I can just measure what I need and make fresh batches.

Let me know your thoughts here. Not sure how much of difference this will make compared to the KB side wise.

[Boldy]

I have used Rogaine Foam for years and never really had this issue. Least not to this extent..

Boldy: stupid question, I see mpb treatments sells a 2oz ethanol/pg mix. Can't I just buy that and measure out 7ml to make my weekly batch? Will it still contain the proper mixture?..I believe I'm over thinking this because majority mix it themselves, but for $8 I can just measure what I need and make fresh batches.

Let me know your thoughts here. Not sure how much of difference this will make compared to the KB side wise.

Mixed Ru is at least 2 weeks stable at room temp, weekly fresh mix is nonsense. allot people on ******* having succes with this method.

I don't know the ratios of MPBtreat, but since it already contains pg, the dissolving part could be harder. I usually dissolve the powders in pure 96% ethanol first, and then I add ppg or glycerin.

can't you just get some pure ethanol and glycerin at the local pharmacy? to try first. see if pure ethanol and glyc without ru give any sides, and then add the ru


goodluck man!

[StayThick]

Mixed Ru is at least 2 weeks stable at room temp, weekly fresh mix is nonsense. allot people on ******* having succes with this method.

I don't know the ratios of MPBtreat, but since it already contains pg, the dissolving part could be harder. I usually dissolve the powders in pure 96% ethanol first, and then I add ppg or glycerin.

can't you just get some pure ethanol and glycerin at the local pharmacy? to try first. see if pure ethanol and glyc without ru give any sides, and then add the ru


goodluck man!

Boldy: Thanks for quick response. This has been extremely helpful! One last thing..you mention glycerin. Is that similar to PG? Why use that instead?

I'm assuming I can ask for ethanol and glycerin at the pharmacy with no prescription correct? Hope they don't ask questions.

Anyway, let me know why this is your mixture of choice.
Thanks again my man.

[Boldy]

Boldy: Thanks for quick response. This has been extremely helpful! One last thing..you mention glycerin. Is that similar to PG? Why use that instead?

I'm assuming I can ask for ethanol and glycerin at the pharmacy with no prescription correct? Hope they don't ask questions.

Anyway, let me know why this is your mixture of choice.
Thanks again my man.

where do you live? I can get Pg, glycerin and 96% ethanol everywhere in the Netherlands without prescription. try to google for webshops etc in your country.

I have replaced PG for glycerin because I cant tolerate pg everyday. it gives skin irritation. try that for 2 days, if you don't have sides, start a low dose RU, and see what happens. Not everyone is the same, so you can't just simply use 50-100 mg like the others. always listen to your body.