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  • Dan26
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 1270

    #16
    Originally posted by StayThick
    How's it going? I'm currently at 25mg which looks to be my sweet spot side wise. Only side I'm getting on and off is irritated eyes after application. Are you experiencing anything of the sort?

    I'll stick with 25mg for now and increase gradually over the next few weeks. Goal is to get as close to 50mg as possible without no sides.
    hmm how would you define your eye irratation exactly?
    I sware since I upped my dose I got one of those eye floaters!

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    • StayThick
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2012
      • 624

      #17
      Originally posted by Dan26
      hmm how would you define your eye irratation exactly?
      I sware since I upped my dose I got one of those eye floaters!
      After my 1st 5% application my eyes felt heavy, tired, then irritated. Looked in the mirror and both eyes became lightly bloodshot. The redness stayed for about 24 hours and persisted even with eye drops.

      I wear contacts and eye redness happens from time to time so I had a hard time blaming the RU. But I gave myself a 2 day break and eyes cleared. Applied 50mg again and eyes again felt tired, dry and irritated. Soon the redness followed. Just my luck.

      Lowered my dose to 25mg and have not had problems since. Only way I can prove its the RU is when I up the dose if the redness returns.

      What's going on with your eyes? What's your experience?

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      • MrBlonde
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 261

        #18
        For those of you getting sore eyes with RU can I ask are you using Minox as well?

        I have never got sore eyes from RU, the one and only time I tired Lipogane I got sore eyes so bad I dropped it.

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        • StayThick
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2012
          • 624

          #19
          Originally posted by MrBlonde
          For those of you getting sore eyes with RU can I ask are you using Minox as well?

          I have never got sore eyes from RU, the one and only time I tired Lipogane I got sore eyes so bad I dropped it.
          MrBlonde, I am using Minox but I have been using that for over 5 years with really no issues in that area. It's the instant application of RU that flares it up right away.

          Again, once I up my dose if my eyes get irritated again ill know RU was the guilty culprit because at the moment I'm good at 25mg.

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          • Avacfc
            Member
            • May 2013
            • 31

            #20
            Originally posted by StayThick
            MrBlonde, I am using Minox but I have been using that for over 5 years with really no issues in that area. It's the instant application of RU that flares it up right away.

            Again, once I up my dose if my eyes get irritated again ill know RU was the guilty culprit because at the moment I'm good at 25mg.
            It is funny you say that about your eyes because im am also getting redness. I never even thought of ru causing it. Im at 5% may drop to 2.5 - 3% see if it drops off and hair maintenance stay the same.

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            • StayThick
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2012
              • 624

              #21
              Originally posted by Avacfc
              It is funny you say that about your eyes because im am also getting redness. I never even thought of ru causing it. Im at 5% may drop to 2.5 - 3% see if it drops off and hair maintenance stay the same.
              I'm going to give it 1 more week and I may have to cease RU use. This morning my eyes were bloodshot and not going away even with drops. I also got a few comments at work about the redness.

              I don't understand how RU affects the eyes? I hope it doesn't change my iris color or have sides similar to Bimatoprost. Sucks man. My eyes are seriously red right now.

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              • Dan26
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 1270

                #22
                Originally posted by StayThick
                I'm going to give it 1 more week and I may have to cease RU use. This morning my eyes were bloodshot and not going away even with drops. I also got a few comments at work about the redness.

                I don't understand how RU affects the eyes? I hope it doesn't change my iris color or have sides similar to Bimatoprost. Sucks man. My eyes are seriously red right now.
                That is wierd man :S
                What vehicle are you using? KB, mixing with minox, alchohol/PG?

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                • StayThick
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 624

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Dan26
                  That is wierd man :S
                  What vehicle are you using? KB, mixing with minox, alchohol/PG?
                  I am using KB solution. I was thinking this could be the issue. Your thoughts?

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                  • hellouser
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 4423

                    #24
                    I've got a question in regards to side effects from RU:

                    Do you guys think its possible to mess up libido from RU after about 2.5 months of usage with 100mg per day? I had really high libido last year in December while I was using 50mg of RU after dropping Saw Palmetto as well.

                    Last couple of months my libido has been really low. Sexual thoughts used to turn me on quite a bit but not anymore. Watching porn doesnt do a whole lot, I just don't find myself getting hard unless I see something REALLY hot. I'm not in the mood completely either, but do want to get off. I get morningwood frequently though, taking a crap I get hard too (because shit presses against the prostate which is essentially the male g-spot). I haven't taken RU in about 2 or more months and I've dropped Saw Palmetto as well. I've had some occasions where I've become erect without touch, but these are far less often than ever before in my life. I almost get the feeling that either Saw Palmetto or RU may have screwed with my sex drive, but I can't come to the conclusion that either have, given that I've had spurts of really high libido here and there and then major drop offs.

                    Last year however, I spent 2 months in europe without my saw palmetto and my libido was very, very high. It was high again in december, and high again about 1-2 months ago for about 1 week.

                    Is this something I should be concerned about or is it me just getting older and a natural process of libido drop with age (I'm 29 years old). I should also mention my diet has been kind of off, I've been sleep deprived and not physically active AT ALL, some depression (i'm balding, duh) and some anxiety. I know those things can and do affect libido.

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                    • MrBlonde
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 261

                      #25
                      Originally posted by hellouser
                      I've got a question in regards to side effects from RU:

                      Do you guys think its possible to mess up libido from RU after about 2.5 months of usage with 100mg per day? I had really high libido last year in December while I was using 50mg of RU after dropping Saw Palmetto as well.

                      Last couple of months my libido has been really low. Sexual thoughts used to turn me on quite a bit but not anymore. Watching porn doesnt do a whole lot, I just don't find myself getting hard unless I see something REALLY hot. I'm not in the mood completely either, but do want to get off. I get morningwood frequently though, taking a crap I get hard too (because shit presses against the prostate which is essentially the male g-spot). I haven't taken RU in about 2 or more months and I've dropped Saw Palmetto as well. I've had some occasions where I've become erect without touch, but these are far less often than ever before in my life. I almost get the feeling that either Saw Palmetto or RU may have screwed with my sex drive, but I can't come to the conclusion that either have, given that I've had spurts of really high libido here and there and then major drop offs.

                      Last year however, I spent 2 months in europe without my saw palmetto and my libido was very, very high. It was high again in december, and high again about 1-2 months ago for about 1 week.

                      Is this something I should be concerned about or is it me just getting older and a natural process of libido drop with age (I'm 29 years old). I should also mention my diet has been kind of off, I've been sleep deprived and not physically active AT ALL (which I know those things can affect libido).
                      Hellouser before I ever got on any treatment, I mean years before when I was in my mid twenties, I was always changing diet and excercising. Mainly running but some body resistance training also. I tired loads of different diets too, low carb, high fibre, tiny amounts of food etc. My Libido would drop off for weeks, I mean it would completely vanish. It was very frustrating and this was before I went near any Ru or vitimans, I have never taken fin, saw or anything else. TRX2 and RU are the only things I've tried.

                      Diet plays a huge part in it. Recently I cut out all wheat products from my diet and it had a huge effect on my libido and I also believe it caused me a massive shed.

                      The body is a funny thing and so is the mind. Recently another poster talked about erection problems and he is on MSM and VITC, there are no other reports on the web of people reporting this and I was on about 9g of MSM a day with a raging libido. Suddenly it dropped off and my mind convinced me that it was MSM, even though I had been on it for month with a very high libido. Eventually I shook my head and said it cant be, my mind is paying ticks on me and last week it was high again, I couldn't stop watching porn etc. This week its low again and the minute I hear you mention it and RU I think oh no for a second then I get myself together, the first month I was on it I was raging high and now a slump.

                      I think its natural for it to go up and down, the body is a complex thing and if you introduce something it may initally spike your libido only to crash it later and then return it to normal. I use RU with KB and never had brain fog or anything else.

                      Am I putting my low libido this week down to RU or MSM? No I'm putting it down to a body being prone to tiredness, wear and tear or whatever you want to call it. Even saying that I have rubbed one out twice this week but the sensation has not been great. I also suffer from poor sleep. It will return soon, I think people over think these things and worry that they have screwed their Libido when it just a low point.

                      Sit tight, it will be back.

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                      • hellouser
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 4423

                        #26
                        Originally posted by MrBlonde
                        Hellouser before I ever got on any treatment, I mean years before when I was in my mid twenties, I was always changing diet and excercising. Mainly running but some body resistance training also. I tired loads of different diets too, low carb, high fibre, tiny amounts of food etc. My Libido would drop off for weeks, I mean it would completely vanish. It was very frustrating and this was before I went near any Ru or vitimans, I have never taken fin, saw or anything else. TRX2 and RU are the only things I've tried.

                        Diet plays a huge part in it. Recently I cut out all wheat products from my diet and it had a huge effect on my libido and I also believe it caused me a massive shed.

                        The body is a funny thing and so is the mind. Recently another poster talked about erection problems and he is on MSM and VITC, there are no other reports on the web of people reporting this and I was on about 9g of MSM a day with a raging libido. Suddenly it dropped off and my mind convinced me that it was MSM, even though I had been on it for month with a very high libido. Eventually I shook my head and said it cant be, my mind is paying ticks on me and last week it was high again, I couldn't stop watching porn etc. This week its low again and the minute I hear you mention it and RU I think oh no for a second then I get myself together, the first month I was on it I was raging high and now a slump.

                        I think its natural for it to go up and down, the body is a complex thing and if you introduce something it may initally spike your libido only to crash it later and then return it to normal. I use RU with KB and never had brain fog or anything else.

                        Am I putting my low libido this week down to RU or MSM? No I'm putting it down to a body being prone to tiredness, wear and tear or whatever you want to call it. Even saying that I have rubbed one out twice this week but the sensation has not been great. I also suffer from poor sleep. It will return soon, I think people over think these things and worry that they have screwed their Libido when it just a low point.

                        Sit tight, it will be back.
                        Thanks dude, thats a great answer. I can definitely get it up, thats not an issue at all, I can easily manage to rub one out many times in a single day. Its just arousal thats a problem... I mean I can slight tingling when I see a hot broad, but nothing beyond that happens. I'm starting to think its in my head. Regardless, I'm going to focus on a LOT of cardio from now on. I just joined the YMCA and will be spending anywhere between 3-9 hours per week on Basketball (I used to play about 2-4 hours a day when I was younger). I'm hoping the extra production of testosterone will help. Gonna see if a diet change can do me good as well.

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                        • KO1
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 805

                          #27
                          Originally posted by hellouser
                          i can definitely get it up
                          prove it!

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                          • hellouser
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 4423

                            #28
                            Originally posted by KO1
                            prove it!
                            Nah, I wouldn't want to intimidate any of the members on this forum

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                            • marikeo
                              Member
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 74

                              #29
                              Originally posted by hellouser
                              T I can easily manage to rub one out many times in a single day. Its just arousal thats a problem...
                              It's in your mind. If you can create arousal in any way, then your body functions are working properly and that includes that brain/body functions.

                              What you are experiencing is as common as a cold. You are checking to see if you are getting aroused in certain conditions. That by definition takes you out of the arousal state. When you don't think about it anymore, you won't even remember you had the issue. Everyone goes through this many times in their life. Particularly when you become a parent!

                              If you can not get arousal, then you may have other issues caused by the medications you are taking.

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                              • marikeo
                                Member
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 74

                                #30
                                Originally posted by StayThick
                                I'm going to give it 1 more week and I may have to cease RU use. This morning my eyes were bloodshot and not going away even with drops. I also got a few comments at work about the redness.

                                I don't understand how RU affects the eyes? I hope it doesn't change my iris color or have sides similar to Bimatoprost. Sucks man. My eyes are seriously red right now.
                                Staythick, stupid question. But are you completing washing your hands after you apply RU? The reason I ask is I think you mentioned you have contacts. If this stuff in anyway gets on your contacts or in your eyes when you are taking your contacts out, I could see you having problems (pardon the pun).

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