Dr. Cotsarelis New Discovery that may finally cure Baldness (June 3rd, 2013)

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  • Westonci
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 254

    Dr. Cotsarelis New Discovery that may finally cure Baldness (June 3rd, 2013)

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    I think this is the real deal. Fingers crossed!
  • hellouser
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 4423

    #2
    Someone should pay Cotsarelis a visit with a swift kick in the ass and tell him to hurry the ***** up.

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    • Thinning87
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 847

      #3
      I'm sure they are working on it...

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      • KJ1982
        Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 54

        #4
        Very exciting stuff. It's taking time but with each new piece of information, no matter how slight, it's another step in the right direction...

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        • Westonci
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 254

          #5
          Originally posted by KJ1982
          Very exciting stuff. It's taking time but with each new piece of information, no matter how slight, it's another step in the right direction...
          This is a very exciting! This solves the mystery of the WNT induced hair regeneration after wounding they announced in 2007


          Circa 2007
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          • KJ1982
            Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 54

            #6
            Of course, the fact that the next step is using "a specific, well-known and studied drug" makes it all the more exciting; should it prove successful then, hopefully, it would mean that it could potentially be a lot sooner in becoming a commercial product due to not having to undergo trials specific to the drug.

            Of course, that's a far off and not yet guaranteed possibility but fingers crossed...

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            • rdawg
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 1019

              #7
              Alright so i should just cut off a layer of skin, inject this stuff and voila my hair is back!

              no but really this sounds promising, and any good news no matter how far the product may be away is still great.

              They are figuring it out, it's taking far, far too long, but people are putting in work to get this solved.

              What I can hope is they discover something that we can actually get our hands on, rather than some kind of injection or weird protein we cant touch.

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              • The Alchemist
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 265

                #8
                I guess Follica's going to rewind the tape back to 2008 and start over.

                Nice to see that they are definitively saying they can create "new" hair follicles. Which is a much better starting point than where they began with the lithium wounding approach. Let's hope that they have good success with a commercially available compound!

                The do it yourself'ers need to get cracking on Fgf9 drugs!

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                • MrBlonde
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 261

                  #9
                  Is this ever going to come to market though?

                  I think when it does all of us will be slick

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                  • rdawg
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 1019

                    #10
                    Originally posted by The Alchemist

                    The do it yourself'ers need to get cracking on Fgf9 drugs!
                    What has FGf9 in it? where do you get this?

                    isn't it also an issue that you'd have to damage that area of the skin to cause new follicles? just taking FGF9 may not doing anything!

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                    • Westonci
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 254

                      #11
                      Originally posted by rdawg
                      What has FGf9 in it? where do you get this?

                      isn't it also an issue that you'd have to damage that area of the skin to cause new follicles? just taking FGF9 may not doing anything!
                      This article kind of explains what Fgf9 is and its function.

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                      • The Alchemist
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 265

                        #12
                        Originally posted by rdawg
                        What has FGf9 in it? where do you get this?

                        isn't it also an issue that you'd have to damage that area of the skin to cause new follicles? just taking FGF9 may not doing anything!
                        I meant they need to find drugs that stimulate Fgf9 - the links to Cot's paper has the info.

                        And you do have to damage the tissue, however, based on the do it yourself experiments that were going on back when Follica was going at it with the lithium approach, it's not hard to do. I do believe some guys were getting a little growth with wounding - they were, believe it or not, lightly sandpapering areas of their noggin and applying lithium gel or whatever.

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                        • Westonci
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 254

                          #13
                          Originally posted by The Alchemist
                          I meant they need to find drugs that stimulate Fgf9.

                          And you do have to damage the tissue, however, based on the do it yourself experiments that were going on back when Follica was going at it with the lithium approach, it's not hard to do. I do believe some guys were getting a little growth with wounding - they were, believe it or not, lightly sandpapering areas of their noggin and applying lithium gel or whatever.
                          certainly only with wounding. It appears that fgf9 takes advantage of a small time window in which skin cells are in a healing stage, which closely resembles an embryonic stage and triggers the skin cells to form new follicles during that period.

                          In other words treatment with fgf9 is timed with the wounding phase.

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                          • TravisB
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 191

                            #14
                            Huh, so Follica isn't dead afterall?

                            Good.

                            But as always, most likely nothing will come from it (at least not in the next 10 years)

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                            • The Alchemist
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 265

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Westonci
                              certainly only with wounding. It appears that fgf9 takes advantage of a small time window in which skin cells are in a healing stage, which closely resembles an embryonic stage and triggers the skin cells to form new follicles during that period.

                              In other words treatment with fgf9 is timed with the wounding phase.
                              Yes!

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