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    Quote Originally Posted by UK_ View Post
    And did they finish the trials for FGF9 for humans in 2010? Obviously they've been testing that method from 2010 - present and have released results now showing new hair growth in humans.
    As far as i can tell UK_, FGF-9 has not been tested on humans regarding this process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UK_ View Post
    For the record, Follica have never released a news item that contained information stating they have grown new hair follicles in humans. This is a first.
    The results they are talking about are from their old trials regarding wounding and lithium which they did grow new hair follicles.

    NOT from FgF-9. They have only tested this in mice.

    smart journalism

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    So it's likely that they will have to conduct new trials?? Which could go on for several years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazza View Post
    The results they are talking about are from their old trials regarding wounding and lithium which they did grow new hair follicles.

    NOT from FgF-9. They have only tested this in mice.

    smart journalism
    What old trials? Can you provide the from-to dates of the trials you're talking about?

    As far as I can tell, they gained approval and patented a number of compounds back in 2010 (one of them being lithium for hair loss) and began A clinical trial in that year, now we have the results of that trial.

    How is this news therefore related to old findings of old trials? FGF9 is part of the entire hypothesis - the compounds used are clearly aimed at altering the gene in question as the following clearly states:

    "This discovery sheds light on a novel mechanism to regenerate hair follicles and opens an exciting new avenue to develop treatments for hair loss in humans," noted Dr. William Ju of Follica, Inc. "Follica has developed a technology platform that is uniquely suited to support clinical translation of these new findings. The Follica platform can be used to induce skin reepithelialization, which creates a "window of opportunity" during which the Fgf9 pathway could be modulated to potentiate hair neogenesis."

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    Quote Originally Posted by UK_ View Post
    What old trials? Can you provide the to - from date of the trials you're talking about?

    As far as I can tell, they gained approval and patented a number of compounds back in 2010 (one of them being lithium) and began A clinical trial in that year, now we have the results of that trial.

    How is this news therefore related to old findings and old trials?
    https://cdn.anonfiles.com/1339937980216.pdf
    2% increase in terminal hairs, tho neogenesis was achieved
    http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/e...d=WO2012078649

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazza View Post
    Apparently this is not the correct phase 2a trial. this was a separate one that run in conjunction.

    Quoting from a poster at HS
    Follica conducted two different studies that we know of. One had wounding and no topical compound, the other had wounding with a topical compound (Lithium). The former actually exhibited modest hair growth. We still have no indication of efficacy for the latter.

    Follica do not make this easy to follow lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hairandthere View Post
    First post here. Hi Desmond. I'm definitely not here to antagonize. I appreciate very much the information that you bring to light on this forum.

    Are you saying that the media releases and statements made by one of the Follica co-founders are fabricated? Or did you just miss the information that they have grown a new hair follicle in a human for the first time in history?

    http://www.xconomy.com/boston/2013/0...dness-therapy/
    Hey brother

    Welcome to BTT...so this study that was published was conducted in humans! That is definitely worth a read!!!

    Guys is anyone able to access this article and either post it on this site or email it to me or anyone you like...let's see if it is really as ground breaking as everyone thinks it is...here's the link:

    http://www.nature.com/nm/journal/vao...l/nm.3181.html

    Thanks in advance btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desmond84 View Post
    Hey brother

    Welcome to BTT...so this study that was published was conducted in humans! That is definitely worth a read!!!

    Guys is anyone able to access this article and either post it on this site or email it to me or anyone you like...let's see if it is really as ground breaking as everyone thinks it is...here's the link:

    http://www.nature.com/nm/journal/vao...l/nm.3181.html

    Thanks in advance btw
    That article you linked us to isnt what they're talking about in the following segment:

    Follica has conducted preclinical testing of proprietary device configurations for skin disruption in combination with a number of known and novel drugs. The company has run a series of human clinical trials, including a Phase IIa trial, which have demonstrated follicular neogenesis in humans for the first time. These trials pave the way for the development of a breakthrough combination of a device to produce targeted skin perturbation coupled with a well-studied drug compound.
    Follica have run a number of human trials based upon the theoretical work associated with mouse studies and FGF9 including a human preclinical trial, that particular work is not related to the link you posted. Follica are immensely secretive, it's very difficult to know exactly what they're up to, however I have never seen them come out and state in a news release they have shown human hair follicle regeneration, that is important to note.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazza View Post
    Apparently this is not the correct phase 2a trial. this was a separate one that run in conjunction.

    Quoting from a poster at HS
    Follica conducted two different studies that we know of. One had wounding and no topical compound, the other had wounding with a topical compound (Lithium). The former actually exhibited modest hair growth. We still have no indication of efficacy for the latter.

    Follica do not make this easy to follow lol.
    Well we have some indication here:

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/new...ess-2013-06-03

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