Histogen Email - Funding Problems!

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  • UK_
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 2744

    Histogen Email - Funding Problems!

    Hi Guys,

    A friend of mine contacted Histogen a few days ago regarding an update for HSC, he asked questions related to the possibility of a Phase III trial in humans, how we as consumers could contribute to the success of HSC and also when it would likely be released to the public.

    Unfortunately Histogen seem to be lagging due to funding issues, please see the email reply from CEO Gail Naughton herself and let me know what you think.


    Hi,

    The attached is the poster form of the presentation that was recently given at the International Investigative Dermatology meeting in Edinburgh.

    The results are strong. We need to perform a large animal chronic toxicity test to support a Phase III trial with a total number of 100-150 injections.

    I truly appreciate your offer to make HSC a success. The only factor that has slowed progress is lack of sufficient research funds to move forward quickly.

    Any suggestions on that topic would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks and take care,

    Gail
    Gail has confirmed once again the strength of the findings, I feel the Phase IIb trial will be the animal toxicity tests and then a final Phase III trial will be conducted before it is released.
  • mmmcoffee
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 259

    #2
    While I don't doubt the possibility that histogen has funding problems, a lot of this is fishy. Would the CEO herself really email a random person asking for updates when they probably have a number of people whose job it is to answer emails like that? If they truly were short on funding, there's no way the CEO would make it open to the general public...she would effectively scare off any potential investors.

    I'd take this with a grain of salt and not flip out about it

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    • mmmcoffee
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2012
      • 259

      #3
      Also doubt she'd ask for advice on raising funds from a random emailer...that's just not professional at all

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      • UK Boy
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 244

        #4
        UK who is your friend? Is he just a normal hair loss sufferer or is he a member of the medical community? I do remember seeing large animal trials listed in a presentation last year so that fact rings true to me. The only thing I do find odd is if this guy is just a regular joe then I can't imagine Gail Naughton corresponding with him in this way. This is the kind of correspondence you'd see more between friends. So is your friend a close acquaintence of Gail?

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        • bigentries
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 465

          #5
          Originally posted by mmmcoffee
          Also doubt she'd ask for advice on raising funds from a random emailer...that's just not professional at all
          Yes, very fishy. The only way she would do it would be in a case of severe desperation

          She is a professional, and she knows how pushy armchair scientists are, very weird to be so open about the trials and then ask a nobody for help with funding

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          • ryan555
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 428

            #6
            Funding is what stops most of these advances. It is a long and expensive process to bring a product like Histogen through trials and to the market. It's a daunting proposition for an investor because if the trial goes poorly, they risk losing every penny of their investment. If you guys are serious about moving this product forward, by all means invest if you are able. The management team at Histogen are top-notch, but unfortunately the timeline of their product will likely be dictated by their ability to find a partner/investor more than by their ability to execute the trials.

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            • UK_
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 2744

              #7
              You can email her if you like her address can be found on the Histogen website:



              gnaughton@histogeninc.com

              It just takes a bit of common sense, something the above posters who are calling this "fishy information" are clearly lacking.

              There have been a number of well informed posters on this website (Kiwi, bannana etc) who have sent/received information from Gail directly, it's only the people who are probably new to this website that are questioning the validity of the information, please dont let the fact that you're a newbie ruin good information!

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              • mmmcoffee
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2012
                • 259

                #8
                Fair enough that you trust your friend. But to say all you need is common sense to analyze that email when everything about it is nonsensical...don't think so.

                If its all true, then it's very unorthodox

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                • Pentarou
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 484

                  #9
                  Hope this means that Histogen isn't about to be bought out and then buried by big pharma.

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                  • UK_
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 2744

                    #10
                    Originally posted by bigentries
                    Yes, very fishy. The only way she would do it would be in a case of severe desperation

                    She is a professional, and she knows how pushy armchair scientists are, very weird to be so open about the trials and then ask a nobody for help with funding
                    Why dont you email her yourself, idiot, of course there are funding problems, even Dr Nigam stated this on an earlier post of his!

                    Morons like you are the ones that will ruin the potential of Histogen, you're depressing and lazy and probably lose at everything in life, we dont need people like you, we need people that can get things done.

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                    • UK_
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 2744

                      #11
                      Originally posted by mmmcoffee
                      Fair enough that you trust your friend. But to say all you need is common sense to analyze that email when everything about it is nonsensical...don't think so.

                      If its all true, then it's very unorthodox
                      Common sense in getting her direct email address you moron, not "analyzing it" (you only need to read it mate) you said she should have people answering her emails for her - she's a ****ing researcher not Justin Bieber - god damn it you're such a ****ing tool its unbelievable. Go drink some more coffee you lethargic moron.

                      I give up on the human race.

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                      • garethbale
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 605

                        #12
                        Originally posted by UK_
                        You can email her if you like her address can be found on the Histogen website:



                        gnaughton@histogeninc.com

                        It just takes a bit of common sense, something the above posters who are calling this "fishy information" are clearly lacking.

                        There have been a number of well informed posters on this website (Kiwi, bannana etc) who have sent/received information from Gail directly, it's only the people who are probably new to this website that are questioning the validity of the information, please dont let the fact that you're a newbie ruin good information!

                        I'm not sure how calling this information 'fishy' displays a lack of common sense. If anything, taking a random email from some unknown person as gospel displays a lack of common sense.

                        Firstly, I have sent emails directly to Gail's email address and she does not respond personally to them. She has a p.a./communications person who does that.

                        Secondly, I know from their replies that they keep their cards close to their chest, something not displayed in the above message.

                        And thirdly, do you really think someone who heads a board, with probably years of research/correspondences/knowledge about funding options/financing etc would be asking a random person about obtaining sources of funding?

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                        • mmmcoffee
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 259

                          #13
                          And what's with the personal attacks? Grow up man, were trying to have a discussion, don't devolve the conversation. I don't know why you're taking it so personally.

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                          • UK_
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 2744

                            #14
                            Originally posted by garethbale
                            I'm not sure how calling this information 'fishy' displays a lack of common sense. If anything, taking a random email from some unknown person as gospel displays a lack of common sense.

                            Firstly, I have sent emails directly to Gail's email address and she does not respond personally to them. She has a p.a./communications person who does that.

                            Secondly, I know from their replies that they keep their cards close to their chest, something not displayed in the above message.

                            And thirdly, do you really think someone who heads a board, with probably years of research/correspondences/knowledge about funding options/financing etc would be asking a random person about obtaining sources of funding?

                            Gareth, please learn how to read my posts before attacking me, my statement on "common sense" was in OBTAINING GAIL NAUGHTONS DIRECT EMAIL ADDRESS.

                            Did you get that? All you have to do is access their website and her personal email address can be obtained.

                            I'm sorry you dont get any personal treatment, but that's no need to feel as if nobody else can ever gain an email directly from her - I think you suffer from "if I dont get a personal email then nobody else will" syndrome.

                            And also, Dr Nigam was informed at the hair loss congress that Histogen were having difficulty in gaining funds, what's so hard to believe about that?

                            I have the actual original email in my inbox sent from my friend (I wont be telling you his name because I dont know ANY of you personally), and the email address matches to the one on the Histogen website (how can this be fake?).

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                            • garethbale
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 605

                              #15
                              Originally posted by UK_
                              Gareth, please learn how to read my posts before attacking me, my statement on "common sense" was in OBTAINING GAIL NAUGHTONS DIRECT EMAIL ADDRESS.

                              Did you get that? All you have to do is access their website and her personal email address can be obtained.
                              UK

                              Calm down fella, I'm not attacking you. I just question evidence objectively before I make a decision on it.

                              I have emailed Histogen in the past and they have always responded (even if they take a while). I'll email them again and report on here what they say...

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