Hellouser's RU Log (with Minox, CB Nizoral and Saw Palmetto)

[UK Boy]

I think that it's clear from Hellouser's pictures that RU does have a positive effect but why is it that there seems to be flucuations of the positive effects? In Hellouser's pics his hair gets visably better in the first few months but at the start of this year his hair was looking worse again until quiet recently when it thickened up again. Looking at Irish Prides photo log his hair also seemed to flucuate over the course of his log too. Also just looking at that link to HLH there's a guy on the thread saying his effects flucuate. So why is this?

[UK Boy]

LOOL Tracy said RU doesnt work? Ive been on the stuff for 6 months and its done absolute wonders.

What effects have you seen from RU UK? Just maintenance? Regrowth? Do you buy Your's from Kane?

[Pocco]

Hi hellouser,
First up. Awesome job on documenting your results.
I am currently using Ru from Kane. Started 4 weeks ago. I was using k&b solution, but found it was hardly dissolving, was left with crystals of ru on receiving areas. I the tried rubbing alcohol, but after reading your thread you said isopropyl didn't work for you, so I have just purchased everclear.
My question is, you mentioned you noticed small hairs in April, then in march your hair thickened up dramatically. We're these hairs you had tiny vellus hairs that all of a sudden had a growth spurt, or were they terminal hairs from the start of their growth?
I have small hairs I can see, but they look like they aren't going to grow anytime soon. I am using 80mg/ml.
How did you find OC ru. I got Kane's but am considering OC as I live in Canada and with the heat don't want to risk it going bad on delivery.
Sorry if this is a tad long.
Thanks

[UK_]

What effects have you seen from RU UK? Just maintenance? Regrowth? Do you buy Your's from Kane?

mpb treatments.

Ive avoided the need to take finasteride/dut.

Waiting for Replicel/Aderans (hopefully Aderans with their new technique that Desmond was talking about).

[UK_]

I think that it's clear from Hellouser's pictures that RU does have a positive effect but why is it that there seems to be flucuations of the positive effects? In Hellouser's pics his hair gets visably better in the first few months but at the start of this year his hair was looking worse again until quiet recently when it thickened up again. Looking at Irish Prides photo log his hair also seemed to flucuate over the course of his log too. Also just looking at that link to HLH there's a guy on the thread saying his effects flucuate. So why is this?

Might be the length of the hair, overall I think if he were to be put through clinical trial he would have shown a vast increase in density, especially in the crown.

Thing is he is also taking minoxidil, but I honestly cant see minox doing all this alone.

[WarLord]

Might be the length of the hair, overall I think if he were to be put through clinical trial he would have shown a vast increase in density, especially in the crown.

Thing is he is also taking minoxidil, but I honestly cant see minox doing all this alone.

It is already well known that minoxidil potentiates the effect of antiandrogens. On minox alone, I kept my hairline perfectly for many years, but I have never regrown any appreciable amount of hair. Only after I started to experiment with antiandrogens, I finally experienced the magic of regrowth.

The shed that this guy experienced after the switch from 2% to 5% minoxidil is nevertheless very unusual. It was brutal, really.

I switched from 2% to 5% minoxidil in 2008, after 11,5 years on 2% minox, but I haven't noticed anything unusual. The only case, when my hair reacted inappropriately, was in 2011, when I was trying 15% minoxidil in my temples. It virtually burned out my hair follicles. It was too strong for me, apparently. Perhaps he is an excellent responder to minoxidil. Or the combination with RU had a synergistic effect.

[secrethero89]

It is already well known that minoxidil potentiates the effect of antiandrogens. On minox alone, I kept my hairline perfectly for many years, but I have never regrown any appreciable amount of hair. Only after I started to experiment with antiandrogens, I finally experienced the magic of regrowth.

The shed that this guy experienced after the switch from 2% to 5% minoxidil is nevertheless very unusual. It was brutal, really.

I switched from 2% to 5% minoxidil in 2008, after 11,5 years on 2% minox, but I haven't noticed anything unusual. The only case, when my hair reacted inappropriately, was in 2011, when I was trying 15% minoxidil in my temples. It virtually burned out my hair follicles. It was too strong for me, apparently. Perhaps he is an excellent responder to minoxidil. Or the combination with RU had a synergistic effect.

Did yo use topical or internal anti-androgens?

[hellouser]

I haven't taken my 550mg pills of Saw Palmetto in about a week.... libido is going nuts. I'm getting sexual drives everywhere; shower, in the car, at work, at church.....

This is nuts.

[Vox]

I haven't taken my 550mg pills of Saw Palmetto in about a week.... libido is going nuts. I'm getting sexual drives everywhere; shower, in the car, at work, at church.....

This is nuts.

Not sure if I follow you. When you say "libido is going nuts" what exactly do you mean? That you have, for example, spontaneous erections? Or just an increased appetite for sex?

Saw Palmetto is included in formulas for improving the male functions, mostly prostate, and this especially for men above 50. If it impairs libido, how can it be effective in improving the sexual function of older men? I don't understand; something does not add up.

[WarLord]

Did yo use topical or internal anti-androgens?

I currently use finasteride and dutasteride.

[hellouser]

Not sure if I follow you. When you say "libido is going nuts" what exactly do you mean? That you have, for example, spontaneous erections? Or just an increased appetite for sex?

Both.

Saw Palmetto is included in formulas for improving the male functions, mostly prostate, and this especially for men above 50. If it impairs libido, how can it be effective in improving the sexual function of older men? I don't understand; something does not add up.

SP is known to reduce libido in a lot of men. Its not 100% side effect free for everyone.

[MrBlonde]

Wohw, Nice improvemant hellouser..


here is a post of ziom1990 on HLH of his 10 weeks RU journey.

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=101985&STARTPAGE=7&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

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It looks like density was down at the 4-5week mark. Is there always this initial shed with RU?

[marikeo]

This is an amazing thread!

I can't get over the progression from what looks like almost a total loss back in January, to what I would consider significant coverage now. Unbelievable.

I don't know how you rode out that shed and stayed sane. Congrats my friend your hair looks very, very nice.

So I am about to pull the trigger. My question is to the rest of the RU users.

If I don't change anything else, but add around 60/mg RU in about 2ml of Minox applied 1/daily, should I expect a significant shed? Minox sheds are well documented and I have experienced these. But are RU sheds also common?

Thank you as always

[Hair87]

Hellouser, the hair you have now are by far the best you had since 2011. Very well..Keep on using RU...

[jlantern]

It looks like density was down at the 4-5week mark. Is there always this initial shed with RU?

That depends on your condition. Thin or miniaturized hairs are going to shed. If you dont have a lot of thin hair as it is .. then maybe you wont get a lot of shedding. If you respond well they will shed faster which is good in the long run. The hair may have to shed multiple times before it gets thick or terminal. I am in month 2 and started a second shed already. With the second shed I can still see my gains still. The only hair that is shedding is very very thin hair so its not really hurting my over all appearance.