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Originally Posted by FearTheLoss
LOL at people like Tracy who say RU doesn't work for people with "actual" MPB.
Not to downgrade Tracy because she is very helpful to a lot of people on the forum, but the days of propecia being the only good treatment are over.
In Europe, we have a good anti-androgen topical called Alpicort F. It is produced by a certain German doctor. It consists of estradiol and corticosteroids. I used it in 1997-99, before switching to minoxidil completely. No regrowth, but a very reliable maintenance. The only problem lies in potential side effects: atrophy of the skin.
What is very interesting is the fact that I observed no problems during switching from Alpicort F to minoxidil. I think that if I made a switch in the opposite direction, it would end up as a disaster.
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Originally Posted by WarLord
In Europe, we have a good anti-androgen topical called Alpicort F. It is produced by a certain German doctor. It consists of estradiol and corticosteroids. I used it in 1997-99, before switching to minoxidil completely. No regrowth, but a very reliable maintenance. The only problem lies in potential side effects: atrophy of the skin.
What is very interesting is the fact that I observed no problems during switching from Alpicort F to minoxidil. I think that if I made a switch in the opposite direction, it would end up as a disaster.
Isnt atrophy a common side effect from topical steroids?
I'm curious though, if CB will have a similar effect if at all given that it only requires to be used at 1% concentration.
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Hellouser, has the CB done anything or is it too early to tell?
im still skeptical of RU cause of sides,
is CB worth it right now?
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wow, awesome post hellouser. this might have single-handedly convinced me to try ru and see what happens. considering i'm already on 5% minox and looking at your results in these pics, it seems like a pretty incredible combination. unfortunately i'm like clan and have horrible sides to fin. but maybe i can get away with a kb vehicle? might as well give it a shot, nothing to lose but more hair that will be lost anyways, right? i can always stop if the sides get bad.
only concerns are potential longterm sides and the potential loss of efficacy, that 5 months then massive shed without any gains rumor scares me. but if i get regrowth even close to yours and it doesn't lose efficacy, there's no way i won't make it to 2015.
this plus bnp-32 on the rise! i'm telling you guys, the next gen of treatments is going to come from the forums many, many years before the big companies release similar products.
anyways, great job and thanks for taking the time.
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Originally Posted by Conpecia
wow, awesome post hellouser. this might have single-handedly convinced me to try ru and see what happens. considering i'm already on 5% minox and looking at your results in these pics, it seems like a pretty incredible combination. unfortunately i'm like clan and have horrible sides to fin. but maybe i can get away with a kb vehicle? might as well give it a shot, nothing to lose but more hair that will be lost anyways, right? i can always stop if the sides get bad.
only concerns are potential longterm sides and the potential loss of efficacy, that 5 months then massive shed without any gains rumor scares me. but if i get regrowth even close to yours and it doesn't lose efficacy, there's no way i won't make it to 2015.
this plus bnp-32 on the rise! i'm telling you guys, the next gen of treatments is going to come from the forums many, many years before the big companies release similar products.
anyways, great job and thanks for taking the time.
The 5 months massive shed thing only happened to 1 guy and he admitted it could have been bad RU. So I don't want these "rumors" to get to much credibility. I know many people that used RU for 4-5 years. This is just a concern of mine cause I got great results as well from the drug.
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Originally Posted by Conpecia
this plus bnp-32 on the rise! i'm telling you guys, the next gen of treatments is going to come from the forums many, many years before the big companies release similar products.
If that happens, that is going to be a colossal failure for all the other players with their team of 'experts'.
What the hell have they been doing for 5, 10, 20 years? Aderans has been researching and running trials for 10 years. That is a STUNNING length of time to be bullshitting around. I'm all for Aderans releasing a product, but they have failed utterly in hitting a reasonable deadline.
10+ YEARS and theyre just scraping by with finishing phase TWO... just NOW, in 2013?
What the ****** has Aderans been doing for the last ten years?!
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Originally Posted by hellouser
March, 2012
In the picture below I am 5 months into using 1ml of RU with about 1-2% concentration (10-20mg) with about 1ml of Minoxidil at 2%. I should mention that while I'm on this regimen, I often used only 0.5ml total per day which all went into my hairline. The rest of my pathetic head I battled with Minox.
You increased your dosage from this and have recommended starting at 50mg (5%) solution of RU, yet for 5 months you used a 1-2% concentration. Wouldn't that be a concentration I should start with considering I am prone to sides with FIN and want to ease myself into this?
I mean 5 months is a long time at that solution. Is it that 5% you found the most success with limited to no side-effects, which is why you recommend starting at that dosage?
Just curious. Again, awesome write-up.
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Originally Posted by StayThick
You increased your dosage from this and have recommended starting at 50mg (5%) solution of RU, yet for 5 months you used a 1-2% concentration. Wouldn't that be a concentration I should start with considering I am prone to sides with FIN and want to ease myself into this?
I mean 5 months is a long time at that solution. Is it that 5% you found the most success with limited to no side-effects, which is why you recommend starting at that dosage?
Just curious. Again, awesome write-up.
You could, and perhaps its best if you start low and work your way up until you notice side effects. I wouldnt go higher than 10% though (100mg/1ml).
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Why Gho? You've got good regrowth!
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mpbtreatments.com has 5% RU strength, I'm thinking about trying it, you have a very similar mpb to me and you really got a great regrowth..
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