Do antidepressants really cause hair loss?

[BaldJerry]

But I am also a drunk and I take a lot of pills so that can't be good for my skin either.

[drybone]

But I am also a drunk and I take a lot of pills so that can't be good for my skin either.

lol thanks Jerry

[Aames]

Spring jam this weeekend, brah!!!!

Maybe this would cheer me up if I knew what the hell it was, brah.

Hey Aames, I really don't know much about antidepressants and hair loss, but I had a similar depressing situation such as yours a few months ago so i thought i'd tell you my story. I was dating a girl who had still not broken things off with her ex bf and we had a very dysfunctional, friends with benefits kind off relationship. It was horrible, i felt insecure , was paranoid and the worst part is that we used to smoke and drink together. Finally i started abusing weed and alcohol to suppress my emotions after prolonged torture of being with her . Long story short, i broke up with her after asking her out formally to which she rejected me saying that she's already committed to another guy. I was an emotional wreck after this incident, i lashed out at my friends and held everyone in contempt. I realised that she had only liked me for my looks and used me for her own attention needs.This is when i got really insecure about my hairloss and aesthetics as i felt losing my looks would directly affect my dating life.

The only good things that have come out of this debacle is that i stopped my alcohol and weed abuse as it was making me feel worse after the high wore off. My problems didn't disappear and my depression increased astronomically. I have been feeling alot better these days, after being free from my vices. I have given up on girls for the time being.

Aames, i feel for you bro, i hope you can foget about your rejection and move on. Don't take drugs mayn, you will ruin your life . Get some help if your ok with it, im sure you can request your psychologist not to prescribe you antidepressants

Damn, I know man. It really sucks that our obsessions are interfering with our lives and relationships so much. I hope we can grow and get better. I think if I regrow or at least halt my hair loss, that will be one major hurdle accomplished.

I lol'd.

Same situation I'm in basically. Just go in there and act depressed, let him give you the meds, but don't take them. Then over the space of a few weeks gradually pretend you're getting better until you're 'cured'.

But for the love of God don't take the medication. Psychs aren't even scientists. They don't know what the **** they're doing. It will turn you into a bald zombie.

This is what I did the last time I saw a psych. I want to get better but I share your sentiments on antidepressants. Perhaps I should be more open with them this time around.

Do regular exercise and it would be helpful to talk to someone
I don't think you should take the pills, doctors these days hand them
Out like they're handing out sweets.
My friend actually went to the doc and made up
Some story to get on Prozac just so he could
Last longer in bed. Apparently cures PE

Oh, absolutely. When I was on them in the past, I would go weeks and even months without any sexual desire. Part of the reason I want to go back on them.

Even though you hate cardio, you should get back into running... Studies have shown running (and other cardio I'm sure) is an effective anti-depressant, even cured it in people. The studies say it can be as effective as today's best anti-depressant pills


It definitely helps me.

Thanks for your input. I have a treadmill and I will definitely start using it on off-days.

I recently started antidepressants about 3 months ago. I have to say it has not effected my hair to the slightest. In fact my hair is getting thicker (thanks to experimental treatments). I think if people lose hair from pills is not in the MPB pattern and if you quit taking the pills it will all grow back. I think hairloss from these pills is rare and if it happens then just quit taking the pills!

One thing that concerns me is Dr Guyuron, a plastic surgeon, has done a study on identical twins who led different lifestyles. He observed the twin that took antidepressants looked older than the one that did not. He said it was cause antidepressants relax facial musccles too much for too long. I believe this to be true. These pills really relax my face and I can see how overtime you can lose that natural tone you get through expression. However I am taking them anyways. I figure that should be easy to reverse right? How can relaxed facial muscles cause permanent aging?

You raise some good points. I suppose I could just monitor shedding if I were to take them. And wow, I also worry about aging. I look young for my age and I would like to keep it that way.

Speaking of that , if I may go off topic for a second, do you have any ideas to maintain the elasticity of our skin as we get into our forties? I never went out in the sun much so my skin looks pretty good .

My diet is good and I exercise. No smoking or drinking. My only stress is the performance of my NHL hockey team.

My wife offers me her 'moisturizer' but I am wondering if there is a male version and /or other vitamins we can take to improve our skin health .

Let me know what your thoughts are.

You could try Retin-A. I visited an anti-aging forum once and it seemed pretty much everyone used it.

[drybone]

thank you Aames

I will check it out.

[Aames]

Antidepressants can cause hair loss but to my knowledge they do not in most people. They work well for some and not for others. I tried 2 different kinds and they did very little for me
In my experience clandestine is right, therapists can actually help your mental state if you are open to the process. I saw one a few times back when my diffuse thinning was worse and I was extremely depressed. Believe it or not I quit going because I was afraid he was starting to make me feel at ease with losing my hair, which I did not want to happen.

Just a word on opiates that you are probably tired of hearing already....they are some of the worst drugs if you are depressed. In my experience at least. They would make me feel better, then worse than before when they wore off. When that last pill is gone it's like, oh shit, now I have to deal with the same reality as before but with an opiate hangover/craving
Also painkillers made my skin kind of bad.

For the record I think we have many similarities. I am a BDD sufferer and I also HATE rejection from women. I crave validation from them and when I do not get it I feel like trash. Also when I am in a depressed state of mind my personality becomes very unpersonable, awkward to be around, and this has caused me to drive away girls who at first were very attracted to me. Having someone's praises and then losing them....that is one of the worst feelings.
So I know where you are coming from. My best advice with this latest rejection is to hook up with someone else as soon as possible....maybe not the healthiest way to handle it and others would call it horrible advice, but it always helped me. When you are stuck on a girl it gets easy to forget there are billions of other women in the world

Good luck.

Sorry, man, completely forgot to address your post. Yeah, the problem with therapy is that I want to be happy but I am reluctant to change the way that I think since I am convinced I am right. I think Highlander can attest to this; once you see things this way, it is very hard to go back.

And yeah, mate, I am sorry to hear that you have abused opiates in the past. I am running very low so will be forced to stop soon anyway. I feel exactly as you do when I am not on them. I purchased some phenibut which I hope will help me relax a few times per week.

Wow, your sentiments regarding women pretty much mirror mine. If I do not get stares or attention when I go out, I seriously want to top myself. I plan to use this as fuel going forward to better myself. I don't know if this type of behavior is healthy, but I often finding using rejection and the anger it causes to fuel my workouts and keep me going when I feel like giving up.

[Aames]

There are no maybes. Our way of of thinking is the truth. The cold, empty, loveless reality of the world we live in. The problem is it doesn't make for happy living, but since I'm a masochist who enjoys setting goals I don't take issue with it.

Good luck with whatever you want to do. Have you tried debating your psychologist? If he doesn't deny that you're right and instead focuses on "feelings" then you can be assured you're sane.

Don't medicate away the truth. No matter how inconvenient it may be.

You make a lot of sense, as usual. I just wish that I could have it both ways. I want to pursue aesthetics AND be happy but it seems they are mutually exclusive at this point in my life. Perhaps I should suffer until I have maximized my potential and then maybe I can be happy with who I am. My only fear is that I'm wasting the best years of my life. High school and college has really sucked so far. Even if I emerge as a solid 9/10, the friends that I still have will be out of college and pursuing their lives with careers and marriage like sheep. I'll be left behind. At least I still look young so I can lie about my age to get friends (hopefully I can maintain this with our new pursuit of skincare and cosmetics). No one needs to know the shame and pain I endured in cocoon mode. Thoughts?

[Breaking Bald]

You make a lot of sense, as usual. I just wish that I could have it both ways. I want to pursue aesthetics AND be happy but it seems they are mutually exclusive at this point in my life. Perhaps I should suffer until I have maximized my potential and then maybe I can be happy with who I am. My only fear is that I'm wasting the best years of my life. High school and college has really sucked so far. Even if I emerge as a solid 9/10, the friends that I still have will be out of college and pursuing their lives with careers and marriage like sheep. I'll be left behind. At least I still look young so I can lie about my age to get friends (hopefully I can maintain this with our new pursuit of skincare and cosmetics). No one needs to know the shame and pain I endured in cocoon mode. Thoughts?

If you think highlander is making a lot of sense then I feel sorry for you Aames. People are not 'medicating away the truth' when they take anti-depressants, they take them because they have a general imbalance of chemicals in their brain which can be corrected with medication.

In saying that, I would advise avoiding them at all costs unless you really need them and trust your doctor. Your problem is how highly you hold up ascetics in your life. Yes they matter to some degree but they are not the be all and end all!

A lot of what you say was how I used to feel about the world, women etc so I understand your feelings of angst, confusion, isolation and despair. I have been through some serious stages of deep depression in my life due to some serious incidents that have occurred. Hair loss was also a devastating blow but I am trying and starting to move past it, in comparison to other things going on in the world it is miniscule. It still affects me but not as much as it has in the past.

Anyway, I try to avoid the forums more these days but if you feel like talking send me a message and we can work something out

Peace, BB

[clandestine]

^Co-signed.

Good post, Breaking.

[Aames]

If you think highlander is making a lot of sense then I feel sorry for you Aames. People are not 'medicating away the truth' when they take anti-depressants, they take them because they have a general imbalance of chemicals in their brain which can be corrected with medication.

In saying that, I would advise avoiding them at all costs unless you really need them and trust your doctor. Your problem is how highly you hold up ascetics in your life. Yes they matter to some degree but they are not the be all and end all!

A lot of what you say was how I used to feel about the world, women etc so I understand your feelings of angst, confusion, isolation and despair. I have been through some serious stages of deep depression in my life due to some serious incidents that have occurred. Hair loss was also a devastating blow but I am trying and starting to move past it, in comparison to other things going on in the world it is miniscule. It still affects me but not as much as it has in the past.

Anyway, I try to avoid the forums more these days but if you feel like talking send me a message and we can work something out

Peace, BB

Yeah, I would love to hear how you are getting over it and doing now. The thing is; I'm not sure I can after realizing how much all of this matters. I do not like the idea of being average or complacent; I might as well be dead.

Exactly. If we achieve the perfect cosmetic routine, alter our facial expressions to minimise wrinkles, and acquire an aesthetic body and a NW0/NW1 then all of this will have been worth it.

One's biological age is completely meaningless. Just look at the people on here who have deep forehead wrinkles and a NW4-7 before age 30. So what if they're "young"? They look like shit! Then compare that to a smooth skinned NW0 and you realise what I'm talking about. Well into your 30's and early 40's you can have the youthfulness of a 20-something. If I were you I'd consider finding a new group of friends upon leaving cocoon mode. You won't need your old friends when you're done. Maybe they'll have started new lives, but in any case you need to make up for the time spent in hibernation.

Don't worry about being left behind. Realise that with your new life you will be able to hang out with younger people and not seem out of place at all. Plus the added maturity, education, and possible job will guarantee you an unlimited supply of fresh sloots. Being beautiful is like turning on all cheats IRL.


We talked about this before, but don't worry about the pain and time endured in cocoon mode. I haven't had a photo taken of me in over five years. As far as everyone concerns I don't even exist. My life shall begin when I leave cocoon mode. I'm even considering getting a name change to signify the occasion.

I look forward to discussing cosmetics and skincare with you soon.

To Breaking Bald: I never expected you to understand the level of beauty and aesthetics of which Aames and I speak. Please don't even write my name anymore.

Indeed, I sure hope everything pays off. I would be so much happier if I was certain that my hair loss was stabilized at the very least. I will have to wait another four months before I compare pictures. But yeah, what you say gives me hope socially. Ideally, I will be able to get some more confidence as I progress on my journey and I can begin meeting new people and leaving behind most of my current friends (many of them are fake; I only consider one of them a true friend).

Anyway, brah, my sentiments about emerging are the same. I haven't updated my FB profile picture in about two years and I am counting down the days to when I can make my before and after picture showing me as a fat, unaesthetic high-schooler contrasted with my new-found radiance and beauty. Fuark, it will be a glorious day. I admire your commitment in that you would go so far as to change your name. It's a very interesting idea.

[Breaking Bald]

To Breaking Bald: I never expected you to understand the level of beauty and aesthetics of which Aames and I speak. Please don't even write my name anymore.

Consider your request ignored HIGHLANDER!

[blowmeup]

If you think highlander is making a lot of sense then I feel sorry for you Aames. People are not 'medicating away the truth' when they take anti-depressants, they take them because they have a general imbalance of chemicals in their brain which can be corrected with medication.

In saying that, I would advise avoiding them at all costs unless you really need them and trust your doctor. Your problem is how highly you hold up ascetics in your life. Yes they matter to some degree but they are not the be all and end all!

A lot of what you say was how I used to feel about the world, women etc so I understand your feelings of angst, confusion, isolation and despair. I have been through some serious stages of deep depression in my life due to some serious incidents that have occurred. Hair loss was also a devastating blow but I am trying and starting to move past it, in comparison to other things going on in the world it is miniscule. It still affects me but not as much as it has in the past.

Anyway, I try to avoid the forums more these days but if you feel like talking send me a message and we can work something out

Peace, BB

Great post Breaking Bald!

Highlander is a twisted, demented soul who will never lead a normal existence. He is like a cancer that needs to be cut out before it spreads. He is just a horrible person!

[Aames]

When this is all over these past twenty-something years will all have been a bad dream.

Trust me when I say this...

[Proper]

Hope you get out of this alive. I don't think any ideas/suggestions on here is gonna change the way you feel right now. I've been through that and it'll depend on the chain of events to come in your life that will be the ultimate deciding factor on whether you spiral through a black hole or into the light (no i'm not ****ing religious and don't ever accuse me of being so).

In the end, its your decision. Whatever decision you make, just know that it was yours to make and it was a damn ****ing good one.

[Woodyy]

I really can't tell if you and Highlander are trolling. The thing is your whole perspective on life is pretty much how I view it. I don't think I can be truly happy with myself unless I know I've maximised my potential aesthetically both facially and in my physique.

There was a point back in November to mid-Feb where I was closest to this, I must have been closing in on 200 lbs at 10% BF, 1-2 more % off my BF and I'd have been happy. My hair was perfect, no signs of loss and I was genuinely happy with everything else.

And then out of nowhere my hair starts falling out on February the 15th, I can pinpoint an exact date as to where it started which shows how sudden it was, I'd never even considered hairloss before, I didn't even know what regaine was nevermind finasteride and dutasteride. Now I think I know more about hairloss than I would have ever liked.

Anyway, I don't even really know why I'm writing this, I can't even remember what this thread is about. All I know is we are all gonna make it brahs. I promise.

[BigThinker]

I can pinpoint an exact date as to where it started which shows how sudden it was,
I'd never even considered hairloss before,
I didn't even know what regaine was nevermind finasteride and dutasteride.
Now I think I know more about hairloss than I would have ever liked.

So much feels.

I used to be so confident that I was destined to have hair forever. I never even thought twice about it.