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    Quote Originally Posted by Candide View Post
    There is nothing like the sort of obsession with gyms and muscle-building in Europe or Asia that there is in the United States, where every high school kid seems to feel duty bound to be in the weights room 4 nights a week. Interestingly, muscle-building and gym culture in Europe and Asia often seem to be associated with the gay community, and is part of a wider interest in personal appearance.

    It is surprisingly how suddenly the muscle trend developed - very few people went to a gym before the 1980's. None of the male sex symbols of the 60's or 70's had six packs, or visible muscle of any sort. I wonder if it will disappear just as quickly in a decade or so's time.
    This, a million times this. The guys from the US/UK here just refuse to believe what you just wrote.

    In Europe, people and women will even see you as an overcompensating loser if you go to the gym, or someone who is too narcissistic and over-obsessed with his appearance.

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    The obsession really got crazy in the 90s when it became also popular in Hollywood to show of some trained bodies. Before that it was just something for freaks like Schwarzenegger and Sylvester Stallon. I hope it will becomes less of a trend in the next 10 years or so.

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    muscules (I am not talking about crazily pumped mosnters) are assotiated with good nutrition and overall state of health. Just as hair. So it is pretty natural for men to look after themselves in this regard just as you care about hair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kadze View Post
    muscules (I am not talking about crazily pumped mosnters) are assotiated with good nutrition and overall state of health. Just as hair. So it is pretty natural for men to look after themselves in this regard just as you care about hair.
    Truth. That is why I do fitness and fight my hair loss at the same time.

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    Up to a point, yes, but the physique that most guys in the US are aiming for, the one that appears on the front of every fitness magazine published in the last two decades, is a wholly artificial creation. You can only get it (if at all) with the use of a sophisticated gym, and usually a bit of help from drugs. People look at the physiques of Hollywood guys like Zach Ephron, and what they don't realise is that these guys' job is to work out. They spend every hour they have in the gym with a personal trainer, and they live on protein and supplements, to keep looking the way they do, because it is their livelihood (and let's face it, they don't usually have much acting talent).

    The problem is that people can't always distinguish between Hollywood and reality, so it sets a worryingly unrealistic benchmark for the average guy. It's the same with hair. Practically everyone in the film industry is supplementing their natural hair with toupees and extensions, which makes the rest of us look inadequate by comparison.

    I'm grateful that these trends are far less extreme in Europe.

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    It is really a pity that we do not see many actors with hair loss who then cover it up. I would love to see some more actors like Nicolas Cage, not only bad-ass guys like Jason Statham that should feed some stereotype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polios View Post
    It is really a pity that we do not see many actors with hair loss who then cover it up. I would love to see some more actors like Nicolas Cage, not only bad-ass guys like Jason Statham that should feed some stereotype.
    There are tons of showbiz people who are bald but cover it up, they just do it in secret. Ben Affleck, Matt McConnaughey, Enrique Iglesias, Brendan Fraser have all been revealed as toupee-wearers, and those are only the ones we know about. We now know that in the heyday of Hollywood virtually every male star was wearing a toupee, but these were closely guarded secrets at the time; maybe in 20 years time, when the tell-all biographies come to be written it will turn out that the same is true of today's stars.

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    Interesting which stars will be among them. I mean those you have mentioned are quite some obvious cases. Ben Affleck and Matt McConnaughey - I could have imagined that. Other cases are not so clear. Like Christian Bale for instance.

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