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    I don't get the whole "obsession" either

    Something like David Beckham's build or Christiano Ronaldo (who is a little bigger) is ideal in my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proper View Post
    I want to be muscular like the beebz, and wear no tshirt in public with no shame.


    Haha.

    Bieber vs. Grown ass man BALD man. Sure, Bieber has 14 year old girls crying at his concerts and he gets on hot ass late teen chicks, but you know that bald dude is attracting real women and handling shit.

    Quote Originally Posted by pat View Post
    I don't get the whole "obsession" either

    Something like David Beckham's build or Christiano Ronaldo (who is a little bigger) is ideal in my opinion
    I agree. Who the **** wants to dedicate hours and hours of their DAY to getting huge and maintaining it. Good, regular strength training mixed with healthy diet, sufficient sleep, and cardio -- Get lean with a little extra weight and be healthy. Health permeates every aspect of our life.

    Also, those big juice heads look like shit and appeal to a small minority of women, who are most likely dumb skanks. And, I think the dude in the picture is above average in size, but not grotesquely so and it fits his demeanor.

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    I'm jealous of Bieber's hair, that's for sure...

    What's funny is the other day I tried looking for recent photos of his dad on Google, to check his hair (to see if JB would perhaps be hit with MPB as he gets older) and HIS DAD WEARS A HAT IN EVERY SINGLE PHOTO. EVERY SINGLE ONE.

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    There you go, Justin Bieber's dad without a hat:


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    Great to see your post. I got you in same tune as of me. The purpose is to have a light & sound body.
    Thank you for this post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dav7 View Post
    Am I the only one who doesn't get this whole obsession with building muscle (including abs etc), and prefers simply keeping a low body fat count and been thin? It just seems like so much effort, and tbh most of the results that come from bodybuilding and weight lifting (abs in particular) just look so unnatural and repulsive to look at. I'm saying that it's good to be overweight, or to be an obese slob, but my idea of a good look is to simply keep body fat to a minimum and achieve a natural lean look.
    Generally if it requires hard work it's worth the effort. People are okay to keep their delusions and pretend that 'muscle' is undesirable but the reality is that it's the polar opposite and more or less the best thing you can do [Especially if you suffer hair loss].

    To use the words 'repulsive' is the ultimate straw man. Those obscenely muscular men you see in magazines are a look that you will never achieve in ten lifetimes. That's the by product of serious genetics and a bucketload of steroids.

    Guaranteed for 99% of the population the more muscle you can pack on your frame the better you'll look. I've been bulking and cutting for near on ten years [I'm now 28]. I've got a relatively large frame and I'm currently 85kg [185lb] at a lean body mass at 6'0.

    If I had ten kilograms more muscle I'd look even better. No matter how much work I do the reality is that from here on out the gains will be limited to 2-3lb per year maximum.

    The TLDR: When anyone says "I don't get the obsession with…" or "It's a pointless endeavour" what they're really saying is "I don't want to put in the hard work therefore I'll denigrate those who do".

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    Not really. I just have better things to do than lifting weights in front of a mirror, and I'm no less of a man because of that.

    Even if you do it to get laid, working out is pointless because women judge you on your unalterable traits: height, natural frame, face, hair.

    I've known men who went from skinny twink to roid-heads but were ugly. They got zero girl before getting into bodybuilding, and zero girl after.

    So what's the point really? Oh you do it for yourself, right? For your confidence! For your health of course! Give me a break, we all know why men work out.

    Can someone tell what other species works out in order to increase their mating value? Or even to improve their confidence? Do lions work out? Are lions that don't work out pussies to lionesses?!

    Just get to a healthy weight, anything else you do will not make your life different than it would be if you had never set foot in a gym. That's the harsh reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred970 View Post
    Can someone tell what other species works out in order to increase their mating value? Or even to improve their confidence? Do lions work out? Are lions that don't work out pussies to lionesses?!
    Perhaps, that is true to some extent. It rather depends on genetics and perhaps in the stone age the genetically strong were just bigger than those who were hunting as hard and more attractive (because they could better hunt and protect). Nowadays, we do not get the same exercise we use to get. Manly working in offices and staying skinny that is why we can help our attractiveness so easily by working out and some choose to do it. -- That's at least my theory of this.

    Of course I assume that muscles make you more attractive. I actually read some study that liberal woman do not care about muscles when it comes to attractiveness of men. Perhaps Belgium is more liberal in general...

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    Hi Guys,

    I have had a mega FUE HT operation ( a 2-day operation yielded in 6700 grafts) in Istanbul. Could you tell me please how long I should wait to hit the gym again?

    Thanks,

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    Hi Guys,

    I have had a mega FUE HT operation ( a 2-day operation yielded in 6700 grafts) in Istanbul. Could you tell me please how long I should wait to hit the gym again?

    Thanks,

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