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    Quote Originally Posted by WarLord View Post
    This is also something that I always wondered. If an anti-hairloss treatment works, it should work within 2-3 months (the length of the telogen phase). This always happened in me with topicals, but I have no idea, how it is in 5-AR blockers. Apparently, they can regrow hair very quickly, within 6 weeks, so they should work very quickly as well. However, my experience tells me that these drugs can take you on a wild ride full of incessant sheds. I started to take fin in late June 2012 and currently, after 10+ months, I am also in a worse state than at the beginning, because hair in my temples detoriorated. This is a shocking result, considering that I started from a stable state, after 15,5 years on minoxidil.

    In any case, I wouldn't recommend to waste time on fin for 1+ year. That guy should have added dut a long time ago.
    Yeah, I never heard of that. I don't think it's such a good idea to wait 12 months to see if Fin is going to slow down your hair loss.

    At 8-12 months i'm expecting more like noticeable thickening of current hair or new hair growth.

    I suggest to get on dutasteride. If you are afraid of sides, just use 2x a week like Warlord suggested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatientlyWaiting View Post
    Yeah, I never heard of that. I don't think it's such a good idea to wait 12 months to see if Fin is going to slow down your hair loss.

    At 8-12 months i'm expecting more like noticeable thickening of current hair or new hair growth.

    I suggest to get on dutasteride. If you are afraid of sides, just use 2x a week like Warlord suggested.
    To be honest I am having no sides from fin now, I did for a while but none at all for a few months now...

    Where's the best place to source dut from online?

    Thanks for your advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedTheCrowsNest View Post
    To be honest I am having no sides from fin now, I did for a while but none at all for a few months now...

    Where's the best place to source dut from online?

    Thanks for your advice.
    we are in the same boat. everybody say that "stick with it" but i can't bear seeing my thinning hair on the mirror. it sucks!

    I dont believe any treatment anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by secrethero89 View Post
    we are in the same boat. everybody say that "stick with it" but i can't bear seeing my thinning hair on the mirror. it sucks!

    I dont believe any treatment anymore.
    It is too premature to give it up. If fin doesn't work (and I always warn others that this probability in young men is substantially higher than as often advertised), you can try topical RU+minox or dutasteride.

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    I thought i'd give it a few more months. However, I am still losing the same amount of hairs on fin as I was before I started taking it. Adding minoxidil has made very little difference too, I just have some small hairs growing on the hairline but in 3 months these haven't developed from that stage.

    I still kind of have a full head of hair (the hairline is not in good shape) but it is just a lot thinner at the front/at the centre of my scalp. It isn't a usual pattern of hairloss.

    I am not sure whether to add dut or not. I am only 25. I don't want to make things worse than they are.

    If I do add it, where should I buy it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedTheCrowsNest View Post
    I thought i'd give it a few more months. However, I am still losing the same amount of hairs on fin as I was before I started taking it. Adding minoxidil has made very little difference too, I just have some small hairs growing on the hairline but in 3 months these haven't developed from that stage.

    I still kind of have a full head of hair (the hairline is not in good shape) but it is just a lot thinner at the front/at the centre of my scalp. It isn't a usual pattern of hairloss.

    I am not sure whether to add dut or not. I am only 25. I don't want to make things worse than they are.

    If I do add it, where should I buy it?

    I can tell you that finasteride didn't work in me at all. My DHT levels were low, but still within the range of adult men (around 30 ng/dl). And eventually, I was losing hair on finasteride+6% minoxidil+Nizoral. I thought I was done. But the mere addition of dutasteride changed everything dramatically. My DHT started to fall down very quickly. At 7 ng/dl, the trend reversed and I started to see vellus hairs in temples.

    I wouldn't recommend finasteride to anyone. Well, it was a breakthrough at its time, but today, the use of finasteride has no rational basis. It is a very unreliable drug with a very wide range of efficiacy. In some men, its effect is pathetic. In contrast, dutasteride works more or less with the same efficiacy in virtually all men.

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    ^^^importance of dual inhibiton type1 and type2 5a

    still is best to start with fin it is enough for some

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedTheCrowsNest View Post
    I thought i'd give it a few more months. However, I am still losing the same amount of hairs on fin as I was before I started taking it. Adding minoxidil has made very little difference too, I just have some small hairs growing on the hairline but in 3 months these haven't developed from that stage.

    I still kind of have a full head of hair (the hairline is not in good shape) but it is just a lot thinner at the front/at the centre of my scalp. It isn't a usual pattern of hairloss.

    I am not sure whether to add dut or not. I am only 25. I don't want to make things worse than they are.

    If I do add it, where should I buy it?
    How is your situation now??

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedTheCrowsNest View Post
    I thought i'd give it a few more months. However, I am still losing the same amount of hairs on fin as I was before I started taking it. Adding minoxidil has made very little difference too, I just have some small hairs growing on the hairline but in 3 months these haven't developed from that stage.

    I still kind of have a full head of hair (the hairline is not in good shape) but it is just a lot thinner at the front/at the centre of my scalp. It isn't a usual pattern of hairloss.

    I am not sure whether to add dut or not. I am only 25. I don't want to make things worse than they are.

    If I do add it, where should I buy it?
    How is your situation now??

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    I'm a 22 year old male with a light complexion and very fine reddish-blonde hair, been thinning since 17. I started applying minoxidil foam 1.5 years ago (Aug '17) twice a day, and then moved to once a day roughly a year ago. Rate of hair loss for this first year was the same as before I started treatment. 6 months ago (June '18) I added 1.25 mg generic proscar to my regimen, and since then my hair loss has gotten noticeably worse; I now have diffuse thinning all over the top of my head, in addition to hairline recession. I also have had pretty consistent right testicle ache since taking the drug (0/10-3/10 on the pain scale), and my body hair/facial hair have gotten slightly thinner. I added jojoba oil and vitamins K2 and D a few weeks ago, and I've also been using Nizoral 3-4 times a week for a year. Any suggestions? Worried I might have Reflex Hyperandrogenicity, which would suck ass.

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