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    A truly gifted surgeon can minimize the scaring to the point that it is barely detectable, if at all. The problem is too many people have gone to hacks in the past. That is where the stigma comes from. Too few are willing to look at just how good the work done by a truly gifted surgeon is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracy C View Post
    A truly gifted surgeon can minimize the scaring to the point that it is barely detectable, if at all. The problem is too many people have gone to hacks in the past. That is where the stigma comes from. Too few are willing to look at just how good the work done by a truly gifted surgeon is.
    I see, thanks for the advice. Also would there be gifted surgeons of this caliber in countries like Poland and Turkey? The prices for HP's in countries such as these seems to be way less expensive than Western countries. Also, people go to other countries for cheaper operations for other faults and problems, can the same concept be applied to hair transplants, or is it generally not advisable?

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    Here is an example

    http://www.haartransplanet.de/index....ul-turkey.html

    Up to 2,000 grafts for €1650. This is more than 5 times less than what I'd be paying in a Western country. My premise would be that (a) the majority of stuff is way cheaper in countries like Turkey anyway and that (b) medical personnel are paid a fraction of what they would be in Western countries. However, is there some kind of a catch here that I'm not seeing? Is this a case of something looking and been too good to be true, or are there genuinely options that cheap available to those on currently limited budgets (student and not working)?

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    Hey Dav7

    thanks for the link. Something worth considering.

    FUT should be the norm as a skilled surgeon can perform this procedure now.

    http://www.virginiasurgical.com/tric...donor-closure/

    This means virtually no donor scar and of course the harvest is superior and the pricing will be drastically lower.

    FUE still has a place, especially for small procedures where its not worth it to make a full cut. FUE can also repair linear scars if need be. FUE is also the future in terms of body hair and beard hair transplantation.

    With computers and improved survival rate of the follicles , FUE for body hair will become widely popular as supplemental to scalp hair giving hope to Norwood 6 and 7 patients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drybone View Post
    Hey Dav7

    thanks for the link. Something worth considering.

    FUT should be the norm as a skilled surgeon can perform this procedure now.

    http://www.virginiasurgical.com/tric...donor-closure/

    This means virtually no donor scar and of course the harvest is superior and the pricing will be drastically lower.

    FUE still has a place, especially for small procedures where its not worth it to make a full cut. FUE can also repair linear scars if need be. FUE is also the future in terms of body hair and beard hair transplantation.

    With computers and improved survival rate of the follicles , FUE for body hair will become widely popular as supplemental to scalp hair giving hope to Norwood 6 and 7 patients.
    Thanks for this. Just two questions if you have a bit of time, (a) can a NW 2.5+ go to a NW1 after a hair transplant, and (b) can anybody become a candidate for a HP, and if not - what would be the conditions for not been an eligible candidate?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dav7 View Post
    (a) can a NW 2.5+ go to a NW1 after a hair transplant, and (b) can anybody become a candidate for a HP...
    Something very important to keep in mind is that most ethical hair restoration surgeons will not restore a man to a Norwood 1 hair line, unless the patient is transgendered. Doctors who will agree to do this are usually much less ethical. Doctors who are much less ethical are often much less gifted by a pretty wide margin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracy C View Post
    Something very important to keep in mind is that most ethical hair restoration surgeons will not restore a man to a Norwood 1 hair line, unless the patient is transgendered. Doctors who will agree to do this are usually much less ethical. Doctors who are much less ethical are often much less gifted by a pretty wide margin.
    I see, but I don't understand why it is unethical?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracy C View Post
    Something very important to keep in mind is that most ethical hair restoration surgeons will not restore a man to a Norwood 1 hair line, unless the patient is transgendered. Doctors who will agree to do this are usually much less ethical. Doctors who are much less ethical are often much less gifted by a pretty wide margin.
    Not true.

    http://www.rahalhairtransplant.com/

    Look at rahal's poster boy with his hair pushed up.

    That is a NW1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dav7 View Post
    Thanks for this. Just two questions if you have a bit of time, (a) can a NW 2.5+ go to a NW1 after a hair transplant, and (b) can anybody become a candidate for a HP, and if not - what would be the conditions for not been an eligible candidate?

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    I agree with Tracy. Generally speaking a good surgeon will not try to make you a Norwood 1.

    I know it sounds depressing. Is the doctor refusing just for spite? No. He will refuse because of two main factors.

    Men who want a norwood 1 are usually under 30 and just want their original hairline back. Unfortunately, if the doctor does this, the patient will continue to bald behind it and eventually end up with 'Joe Biden' syndrome. Doctors need to know how bald you will become before they set expectations of a permanent hairline.

    Fin and Minox can help stave off balding, but nobody knows yet if it can repel the balding forever. Its too new.

    I am almost 47, and am a Norwood 3 A . Which means no crown loss just on top diffuse thinning. At my age its almost a guarantee I will never bald. So now its just a matter of how many grafts it will take to make me a norwood 1.

    But I am find with some recede. I think a Norwood 2 with some recede at the temples looks mature, masculine and the ladies like it.

    Just think it over.

    I will post picks of good looking men with Norwood 2 with recedes on the sides if you wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drybone View Post
    I agree with Tracy. Generally speaking a good surgeon will not try to make you a Norwood 1.

    I know it sounds depressing. Is the doctor refusing just for spite? No. He will refuse because of two main factors.

    Men who want a norwood 1 are usually under 30 and just want their original hairline back. Unfortunately, if the doctor does this, the patient will continue to bald behind it and eventually end up with 'Joe Biden' syndrome. Doctors need to know how bald you will become before they set expectations of a permanent hairline.

    Fin and Minox can help stave off balding, but nobody knows yet if it can repel the balding forever. Its too new.

    I am almost 47, and am a Norwood 3 A . Which means no crown loss just on top diffuse thinning. At my age its almost a guarantee I will never bald. So now its just a matter of how many grafts it will take to make me a norwood 1.

    But I am find with some recede. I think a Norwood 2 with some recede at the temples looks mature, masculine and the ladies like it.

    Just think it over.

    I will post picks of good looking men with Norwood 2 with recedes on the sides if you wish.
    Ok, how about a NW 1.5 then? Look I don't care about whether it will recede in future because I'd be more than willing to get another HP down the line, along with using meds/ the big 3 etc to halt some further loss. Money has nothing to do with this, I put my own personal well-being before having extra money in the bank, so if I have worked for and raised enough of my money to get the hairline I wish for, why should I be denied this given that I've saved up for such a service and am willing to undergo it?

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