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  • Dav7
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 308

    Propecia and erectile dysfunction

    Next week I'm going to buying the "Big 3" online. However, I've been reading up some stuff and comments about propecia and it's sexual side effects. Is there any basis in the claim that propecia can cause erectile dysfunction? If so would it be a common occurrence and would it be temporary or permanent?
  • BigThinker
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 1507

    #2
    Literature suggests side effects are rare and seldom permanent. If you scour the internet, you'll certainly find people who say they suffered horrible sides ranging from depression to loss of libido to brain fog.

    There's plenty of guys on this site that say things like that. They'd be more convincing if their claims weren't coupled with irrational blabber.

    Whether you'd rather base your decision on empirical evidence or anecdotal evidence is up to you.

    At 1 month in, my only regret is that I over thought it and let the negative people deter me from starting 3-4 months ago.

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    • chrisis
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 1257

      #3
      Contentious topic of debate that's raging not just on this forum, but in court rooms all around the world.

      Tough to know who or what to believe anymore, and I'm speaking as someone with long term sides.

      I can summarise it easily for you though:

      Can Propecia cause sexual side effects? Yes
      Can side effects become long term? Yes

      The exact number affected is in my opinion as unknown as why these side effects occur and how to fix them. Don't trust anyone who suggests otherwise.

      Inevitably anecdotes feature strongly in discussions like this. Those who have no sides believe the drug is almost entirely safe, and sometimes accuse those who suffer side effects of exaggerating or suffering a placebo or psychological phenomenon. Ask those people where they got their medical degree. There are crazies on the other end of the spectrum too, and I'm not sure whether it's sheer anger or frustration that fuels them.

      Just be cautious.

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      • Kloser43
        Junior Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 13

        #4
        Firstly, Its worth stating that It is certainly a possibility. However Studies generally suggest most don't suffer from libido issues.

        Though I certainly wouldn't claim 100% accuracy, my understanding is Finasteride raises T levels because it causes a blockade of sorts of the 5a-reductase enzyme (DHT conversion which helps cause hair loss)

        This however will raise your estrogen level because of higher T levels, and reduced conversion to DHT. The effects of raised Estrogen are the things you've likely read about such as reduced sex drive, emotional issues (Depression etc) and gyno.

        Now, as I said the chances of having these problems are slim. If they happened too often then I presume it simply wouldn't be on the market due to overwhelming negative reaction. It's also a treatment for prostate enlargement, which is very common, so doctors working within this area would know and surely report strong negative reaction.

        Whether side effects would be permanent I'm afraid is just another gamble. Again, studies suggest its less likely to be permanent, but I'm currently tapering off the drug and praying my libido returns to normal. I can tell you even a scare does give you some perspective on hairloss.

        It's down to you to be sensible. Stick to a recommended dose, and be mindful of your body. You may have a short term symptom or two early on such as a hair shed or uncomfortable testicles. They seem to pass generally quickly. Beyond that, like Chrisis said, you just have to be careful.

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        • Dav7
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 308

          #5
          Ok, I'm giving this some thought. I am still buying the big 3, however would Rograine and Nizoral prevent further balding by themselves, or would propecia be a necessity in maintaining my hair/ hairline?

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          • pafc66
            Junior Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 24

            #6
            None of them will retain your hairline. Rogaine might thicken it up abit for a year then will shed out... propecia will keep your crown. Lookout for the puffy face on rogaine, that ones worse than hairloss.

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            • Dav7
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 308

              #7
              Originally posted by pafc66
              None of them will retain your hairline. Rogaine might thicken it up abit for a year then will shed out... propecia will keep your crown. Lookout for the puffy face on rogaine, that ones worse than hairloss.
              I thought they did, a few on here have mentioned the big 3 for maintaining hair and hairlines.

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              • pafc66
                Junior Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 24

                #8
                Originally posted by Dav7
                I thought they did, a few on here have mentioned the big 3 for maintaining hair and hairlines.
                Doubt it does much..most likely genetics that keeps there hairline..

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                • Dav7
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 308

                  #9
                  Getting back to a question there from a few posts back - what would rograine and Nizoral do by themselves, would they still yield good results, or would they not be effective on their own?

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                  • chrisis
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 1257

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dav7
                    Getting back to a question there from a few posts back - what would rograine and Nizoral do by themselves, would they still yield good results, or would they not be effective on their own?
                    There are no simple answers to questions like this, it depends on many factors. Each person's situation is different, in terms of where their hair loss is at, and how well they respond to the treatments available. You can only try various things based on a benefit/risk evaluation and see how you fare.

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                    • BigThinker
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 1507

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Dav7
                      Getting back to a question there from a few posts back - what would rograine and Nizoral do by themselves, would they still yield good results, or would they not be effective on their own?
                      Maybe? Bottom line: fin is the most effective. If you're really worried about hair loss, you really need to consider fin.

                      I'm doing the inverse of what you're suggesting. Keto shampoo irritated my scalp, made my hair look like shit, and gave me dandruff. I'd rather be bald than apply minox even once-a-day, let alone the recommended twice-a-day.

                      Finasteride - I wake up, pop a pill with my breakfast alongside a multi-vitamin and a considerable amount of water, and move on with my day. I keep a couple in my bookbag in case I ever forget, but at 1 month in it's still one of the first things I think of upon waking.

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                      • chrisis
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 1257

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BigThinker
                        I'd rather be bald than apply minox even once-a-day, let alone the recommended twice-a-day.
                        .
                        Minoxidil is actually very easy to apply if you use the foam. I only do it once a day (at night) and have had excellent results. As I said, each person needs to weigh up the risks/benefits based on their own situation; there's no one size fits all.

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                        • Dav7
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 308

                          #13
                          Are there are types of tests that can be done by a doctor to determine as to whether one would suffer from erectile dysfunction as a result of using propecia? Also, if one does get erectile dysfunction through the use of propecia, are there any treatments or items (e.g. Viagra) that can reverse the sexual effects potentially caused by propecia?

                          I was really into the concept of getting each of the big 3, but some of these reports of making me scared as **** to go near the stuff.

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                          • chrisis
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 1257

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Dav7
                            Are there are types of tests that can be done by a doctor to determine as to whether one would suffer from erectile dysfunction as a result of using propecia? Also, if one does get erectile dysfunction through the use of propecia, are there any treatments or items (e.g. Viagra) that can reverse the sexual effects potentially caused by propecia?

                            I was really into the concept of getting each of the big 3, but some of these reports of making me scared as **** to go near the stuff.
                            Propecia can cause a range of sexual health problems, not limited to problems with erections. Viagra works by increasing blood flow to the penis - it doesn't interact with hormones in the way Propecia does, so I wouldn't assume you can counter the effects of one with the other.

                            You could go to the doctor to get a blood test for baseline information about DHT and testosterone. If you did suffer sides, at least then it's something to refer to afterwards. To my knowledge though nobody has figured out an "identifier" in terms of figuring out what predisposes some men to suffer sides while others don't.

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                            • Dav7
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 308

                              #15
                              Originally posted by chrisis
                              Propecia can cause a range of sexual health problems, not limited to problems with erections. Viagra works by increasing blood flow to the penis - it doesn't interact with hormones in the way Propecia does, so I wouldn't assume you can counter the effects of one with the other.

                              You could go to the doctor to get a blood test for baseline information about DHT and testosterone. If you did suffer sides, at least then it's something to refer to afterwards. To my knowledge though nobody has figured out an "identifier" in terms of figuring out what predisposes some men to suffer sides while others don't.
                              Ok. Has anybody here actually suffered from sexual side effects using propecia? Also, the stats usually indicate that 2% of users suffer from sexual side effects through use of the product. However, somebody who posted a visitor message on my profile informed me that it can be as high as 30% of users, which is just downright scary.

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