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    Default Misleading Claims about Dr. Gho's HST technique...

    So, this thread is all about the misleading claims in this field by doctors, hair loss forum users, patients etc etc about Dr. Gho's HST technique.

    After so many discussions since a very long time, interviews, videos, patient reports etc etc - and yeah, even after lots of very detailed analyses
    - all these claims are based on - what exactly?
    And what are these claims at all?

    The following 3 very detailed photos, as example, should serve as "basis" for all these claims:

    GREEN numbered dots show extraction/REGROWTH sites from a previous HST procedure.
    BLUE numbered circles show the new extraction sites.

    Blue circles with a green dot in it show multiple extraction sites from a previous and the new HST procedure;
    That means, already extracted, regrown and extracted once again sites.

    Below: Day 0 (one day BEFORE having HST extractions)
    *Full Size* http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/12...ay%200.jpg

    So the pic above shows the situation simply "as is" shortly before having HST extractions.
    That means, with such a BEFORE-photo, everybody knows what exactly (graft type etc) HSCI doctors and/or HSCI technicians extracted from the patients' donor area if you also have a photo after the extraction part.
    So what did they extract? Let me look...

    Below: Day 2 (two days after having HST extractions)
    *Full Size* http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/12...%20-%203rd.jpg

    So, now I know what exactly they extracted...
    ...if I compare each and every extraction site (labeled with numbers to find them) with the Day-0 BEFORE photo.
    So what type of grafts (1-hair, 2-hair, 3-hair grafts etc) did they extract?
    Are there still any hairs/hair shafts left within extraction sites - aka "Gho is splitting follicular units"?

    Below: Day 24 (24 days after having HST extractions)
    *Full Size* http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/12...8/Day%2024.jpg


    Anyway, and now try to imagine how the patients' donor area would look like,
    if every labeled extraction site would have experienced normal FUE...
    pffffffft... the patients' donor area would be almost slick bald!

    And finally, the real good question:


    *FULL SIZE* http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/12...8/DSCN1524.JPG

    When there are so many and clearly visible regrowth sites in the patients' donor area
    (the donor area looks still ALMOST untouched if you compare the Day-0 versus Day-24 photo)
    - where do all the new hairs in a former slick bald recipient area come from??

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    Regeneration!!!!!

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    Ok, by now black and green areas are fully grown

    Could GC take photo of these 2 areas and we will analize them..before you upload photos
    if you could please circle HST1 (700 grafts)area in with black and HST2 (700 grafts)area with green, just like it has been done in the pic above

    I was looking at GCs other picture he uploaded a few weeks ago and it appears that
    HSt1 has more multihair grafts than HST2, it could be due to HST1 being 6 months 'older' than HST2..its difficult to analize as I dont know exactly where borders are and not sure if Im looking at the right area..I dont wanna jump into conclusions without good pic and circled areas

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    Quote Originally Posted by didi View Post

    I was looking at GCs other picture he uploaded a few weeks ago and it appears that
    HSt1 has more multihair grafts than HST2, it could be due to HST1 being 6 months 'older' than HST2..its difficult to analize as I dont know exactly where borders are and not sure if Im looking at the right area..I dont wanna jump into conclusions without good pic and circled areas
    Why don't you go to the normal hair transplant results section and analyse the results in general over there
    and whether or not the mentioned type and amount of the from A to B grafted hairs grew in the recipient area??

    Here is, for example,
    such a nice and brand new result for you in this section with almost 8,000 super-duper golden standard grafts:
    http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=11699

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    Quote Originally Posted by FearTheLoss View Post
    Regeneration!!!!!
    Did anyone else read this in the voice of the Quake III Arena narrator?

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    Default Misleading claim#1: The split-ting of FU’s story…



    So what is “splitting of follicular units” at all?

    The following pics are based on Dr. Rassman’s explanations about FUE versus FUT…
    http://www.baldingblog.com/2012/06/0...er/#more-10968

    The pics (step 1-3), provided by Dr. Rassman on his website, show rather a splitting of real Follicular Units scenario
    and not a real, typical (horizontally) TRANSECTION scenario of one or more single follicles within a true follicular unit configuration during extraction with a normal FUE punch (>0.8 mm diameter).

    On the other hand, Dr. Rassman’s pics show actually BOTH scenarios:

    - a splitting of FU’s scenario;
    - a partially “longitudinal transection” scenario of at least 1 (or perhaps even 2) follicles within a normal 3-hair follicular unit configuration.

    Anyways, is what Dr. Umar claims and Dr. Rassman shows with pics exactly what Dr. Gho is doing with HST?
    The answer is definitely – NO!
    This is what Dr. Gho is doing instead of…

    Dr. Gho only extracts FOLLICLE TISSUE – and not small skin grafts from a patients’ donor area,
    as, in fact, all FUE doctors out there are doing that.

    Additionally, Dr. Umar’s claim that “a lurking hair in telogen might regrow” in the extraction site
    and that “all this culminate into the appearance of donor hair regrowth”.

    Wow – I could never ever see so many telogen/anagen transitions within normal FUE extraction sites as I could see them in Dr. Gho’s HST extractions sites
    – and all these transitions at the same time and just within 1-2 weeks!
    And guess what:
    All these telogen/anagen transitions just happen within extraction sites!! – and practically nowhere else in the donor area!!
    – at least, according to gc’s analyzed photos (see 1st post in this thread).

    CONCLUSIONS about these misleading claims:

    - plain incompetence
    - “innocent mistake out of ignorance and not a deliberate attempt to mislead”
    - intentional falsehood to mislead interested patients

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    This is the pic I was talking about




    IM/GC

    Can you pls circle HST1 area so we can have a good look of whats going on



    And this one pls circle HST2 area, pics are quite good
    http://www.fileden.com/files/2011/9/...%20007.JPG

    IronMan
    Pls visit
    http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=11723

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    Quote Originally Posted by didi View Post
    I was looking at GCs other picture he uploaded a few weeks ago and it appears that
    HSt1 has more multihair grafts than HST2, it could be due to HST1 being 6 months 'older' than HST2
    ..its difficult to analize as I dont know exactly where borders are
    and not sure if Im looking at the right area..I dont wanna jump into conclusions without good pic and circled areas
    And how about HST1 just after 5.5 month...
    http://www.fileden.com/files/2011/9/28/3202143/aaaa.jpg

    or HST1 just after 9 month?
    http://www.fileden.com/files/2011/9/...ment%20013.JPG

    Are there more multi-hair grafts or singles?

    btw - these photos show that, of course, the shorter the hairs,
    the more it is difficult to judge whether or not the grafts produced singles or multi-hairs.
    Because the closer the hairs are to the skin's surface (pore), the more the hairs "stick together" - at least most of them.

    But the real reason why YOU can see more multi-hair grafts from the 1st HST:
    It's because Dr. Gho splittet the FU's in gc's 1st HST and left 1 or 2 hairs behind in every extraction site
    - as explained in detail in my previous post.
    So everything what Dr. Gho could extract and implant during the 2nd HST,
    were all the left behind single hairs from the 1st HST...
    In other words, Dr. Gho couldn't find any multi-hair grafts anymore in gc's donor area...

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    Regarding Umar's, need more claims than that to legitimize transplanting all the hairs of your ass on top of your head?

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    GC looks much better with shaved head,
    if he wants to grow his hair long he will have need more grafts, too thin to grow..mismatch

    buzzcut suits him better

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