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    Hey guys, thanks for your posts. I think I might give Propecia a chance.

    You're right, it's true that all pharmaceutical drugs have potential side-effects, so I think it's just a matter of monitoring your bodies reaction. If the drug works and I get to keep my hair, lovely! But the moment I start having adverse reactions.. I'm done. I would rather be able to sustain an erection than have hair, and I heard some of those side effects are permanent. But I really don't wanna be a NW6 in two years either.. ahh life isn't fair!!

    I'm okay with being bald, just not now in my 20s. Like come on! What's worse is that no one else in my immediate family is bald. My dad's got a similar hairline to me but he has much thicker hair so he's only slightly thinning on top. Both my brothers show no sign of hair loss. All the males on my mom's side have fine hair, and two of my cousins are going bald and they're around my age. So it would seem I inherited the fine hair from my mom and the widow's peak hairline from my dad, which is apparently a recipe for early balding.

    I really wish I could forecast how much hair I'm going to lose. I know there's a chance it could just stop where it's at, but I'm assuming it's just going to get worse..

    What is this RU you guys are mentioning? Right now I'm taking a natural remedy for hairless, called Bio-Fen Plus. The main ingredient is saw palmetto. I have no idea if it's working.

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    Give Propecia a Chance... sounds like a John Lennon song.

    Please be aware that backing off as soon as you acknowledge sides are occurring does not necessarily mean they go away just as easily.

    It's something everyone should be fully informed about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awesomeguy View Post
    Hey guys, thanks for your posts. I think I might give Propecia a chance.

    You're right, it's true that all pharmaceutical drugs have potential side-effects, so I think it's just a matter of monitoring your bodies reaction. If the drug works and I get to keep my hair, lovely! But the moment I start having adverse reactions.. I'm done. I would rather be able to sustain an erection than have hair.
    That's the mindset you need to have. Give it a shot. Don't overthink or underthink it; just be mindful.

    If I let some of the people on this forum deter me from giving it a shot any longer than I did, I think I'd be sick with myself.

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    There is really no way to tell how your hair loss will progress, everyone is different, but on the bright side, you look like you could pull off the bald look.

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    Why is everyone telling this guy he'll be a slaphead before he's 30?

    He has temporal recession and as far as I can see no balding on his crown, though it's hard to tell with such short hair.

    His hair may only recede another half an inch or so at the temples and none at all at the crown in the next 10 years.
    Why give him worst case scenario "OH NOES, YOU'LL BE BALD SOON, GET ON PROPECIA IMMEDIATELY" nonsense?

    He needs to see a professional who can evaluate his hair then monitor it over a period of at least a year before he commits to anything as dangerous as propecia.

    He could start using Rogaine right away though, no harm in it.

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    I think the first photo makes it look worse than it is because your hair is very short and straight. When viewed from above the hairs on the top are at a different angle to the hairs at the sides and back. You're getting a lot of reflection off your scalp. You noted those things yourself.

    I have the same thing going on myself. My hair on top isn't really much lower in density than the back and sides, but when it's buzzed (as below) the hair angle causes a bit of a horseshoe look.




    I think this photo shows how thick my hair is at the crown when my hair is longer. I'm not going to be a NW6 any time soon.



    This is not to say that you don't have thinning, I just don't think it's as severe as some people are making out.
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    Mattj, that's exactly where my thinking is at.

    Before I buzzed my hair it would've looked very similar to the bottom picture. As far as I can tell there's zero thinning on the crown, but that's not to say it won't happen. Which is why I want to get an idea of how far my MPB will progress. Just because my temples are thinning does that mean my crown will eventually thin as well? And to what extent will my temples recede? Will I eventually just have an island patch in the front? When will this happen? Should I do something extreme about it now? Will natural hairless remedies suffice for gradual thinning? Should I save for a hair transplant? Does any of this even matter?!?! A lot of questions, but like most of you said, that's not entirely possible to know. Except for that last question, it truly doesn't matter for what's actually important in life. I know that, and you should remind yourself as well. Yet, it matters for the ego. And that's why we're all here, right?

    I've decided to see a specialist and get a professional opinion, which is something I should've done in the first place but was too embarrassed. Depending on what he says, I'll consider finasteride but I'm pretty certain that I'd just opt for being bald instead. Shaving my head really helped me psychologically deal with hair loss and I'm actually very happy with the sheared look. Completely surprised myself. Seriously, you should try it. (I know what you're thinking - "fcuk that I'm keeping my hair at all costs" - but listen to science: http://spp.sagepub.com/content/early...49490.abstract)

    But I can't let my hair go just yet, not when I've still got enough to play with. So I'm going to try the nizoral shampoo and stick with natural remedies, as well as eating healthy and exercising. Oh, and if you've never tried, hot yoga is a great way to deal with hair loss. Not only are you improving your circulation thereby allowing more blood to reach the hair follicles, you're letting go of all the negative thoughts you have surrounding MPB, leaving you feeling wonderful about yourself. Give it a try, you won't regret it. Anyways, something to think about. (PS - if you do go, try following the class with this: http://www.lush.ca/Roots/03741,en_CA,pd.html - it's heaven)

    Thanks for your replies! I think I've figured it out now. No more worrying.

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    I am a big believer of having short hair, but not shaved down to the nub.I think dominance has something do with attitude, confidence, muscular build and height. Not hair or shaving ones head.

    I think the study shows that if someone shaves their head they look more like a 'beast' thus more 'dominant' . Thats my opinion anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awesomeguy View Post
    Hey guys,

    So I'm a 24 year old guy and I've always had a high hairline throughout adolescence, but now I think it's getting a lot worse. I've always been very conscious about my hairline and styled my hair regularly to make it look good. Lately I've been worried about hairloss and I was getting sick of styling my hair so last week I decided to shave my head to see if that look would suit me. To my horror, I discovered the true extent of my baldness. As you can see from the picture, it looks as though I'm developing an island patch in the front. Lame.

    What do you think? I am wondering if anyone has a similar pattern of hairloss and how it progressed? How much time do you think I have until I'm completely bald? I have a rather bumpy head and fine hair so the reflection off my scalp makes it look a lot worse.

    I've heard too many awful things about propecia that I don't think I would consider taking it. Eventually I'd like to get a hair transplant but I'm not sure if I should do it now? What other options are there?
    Your head looks like Wesley Sneijder's before he got the transplant!

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    Quote Originally Posted by drybone View Post
    I stopped right after you make this comment.

    Nobody hired you to be some advocate of finasteride side effects. We told him to consult his doctor , who is a professional and will know.

    If you have a personal story regarding finasteride, share it. Let the doctors advise him . He can do all the research in the world but he wont know how it affects him until he sees his doctor and tries the medication.

    To the OP, 4% of those who try it end up with severe side effects. Discuss these with your doctor.
    Sorry, but most doctors are busy treating much bigger problems. They aren't as informed about MPB treatments as you're making it seem. He needs to see someone who specializes in hair loss per se. Analogy: I'm an attorney, but you shouldn't suggest that someone come to me trying to settle a land use dispute just because I'm a lawyer, since I specialize in personal injury law and have minimal experience with land use issues. My personal story? I went to my doctor and said I think I'm losing my hair, and he said okay, here's a prescription to Propecia, good luck. 5 years later I have sexual sides and gynecomastia (manboobs) from estrogen increases directly resulting from Propecia's lowering my DHT.

    The point is I wasn't informed; my doctor had no clue those sides even existed and certainly wouldn't have thought they'd come out of nowhere after years of taking it without sides. So again, do your own research before making the leap to finasteride. It worked for me for many years. But eventually I got pretty serious sides and now I can't take finasteride anymore. Just be informed, that's all Clandestine and the others are saying.

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