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    Default Have you noticed that more advanced nations have more bald men

    I think the germanic people, british, dutch, germans and scandinavians have the highest number of bald/balding men and these nations are among the most advanced in the world. On the other hand, those who are still living in jungles, such as amazon tribes, australoids (native people of australia and soutern indians) and other tribes, such as those from Papua New Guinea, have no baldness. So either balding nations are more hard working or its their diet. What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldozer View Post
    I think the germanic people, british, dutch, germans and scandinavians have the highest number of bald/balding men and these nations are among the most advanced in the world. On the other hand, those who are still living in jungles, such as amazon tribes, australoids (native people of australia and soutern indians) and other tribes, such as those from Papua New Guinea, have no baldness. So either balding nations are more hard working or its their diet. What do you think?
    It all comes down to genetic factors, poor diet and stress can worsen Androgenetic Alopecia, but not be the root cause. It has been mentioned before that Caucasian men are considered more prone to hair loss then African and Asian men.

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    This could be the result of genetic drift (most likely in my opinion). It could also be differences in diet as you said or differences in natural hormone levels. Last but not least, have you considered that in places that are less developed fewer people will make it to the age where they would go bald. I haven't really put much thought into it to be honest.

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    It might also be the case that people from less technologically developed areas of the world have shorter average lifespans, so a greater preponderance of the male population dies off before reaching an age at which they begin exhibiting MPB.

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    This subject that certain ethnicities of people go bald so much more frequently than others has always interested me. You never see American Indians go bald and most Mexicans and Central Americans have full heads of hair even in old age. Obviously genetics play the chief role in this, but diet could have something to do with it? I dunno, this is something that scientists should really look into.......

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    -- One reason could be due to Vitamin D (sunshine vitamin D, and not vitamin D fortified food) deficiency in the northern countries as recent studies seem to indicate a connection between hair loss and vitamin D.

    -- Another probably better reason is diet. There was a famous Japanese study that showed an increasing western diet was correlated to increasing baldness in the Japanese.

    -- Another reason (my own postulation) is that sitting at a desk/monitor all day and thinking a lot (whether in terms of education, computer work, cell phone "work", social networking, porn, 401k etc...) could cause some kind of change in our hormonal balance or DHT-stress pathway. I agree with people who find that homeless people have less baldness. They only think of day to day survival and have no other stresses related to thinking. There was some study in India or Sri Lanka that suggested baldness was much higher in engineers compared to farmers. But this could also be linked again to diet and sunshine as my first two points indicate rather than "thinking". Or genetically predisposed to balding folks tend to be those who gravitate to college and computers? I do not think so, but it is possible.

    Have any of you ever looked at group photos of northern Europeans from 100 years ago? Balding was definitely much less significant back then. Diet and lifestyle as well as some things we cannot control (e.g., plastics and borth control pills related hormone altering stuff in our water) are also potentially accelerating balding. My old hairdresser told me that she had never seen so many high school kids balding in her 30 plus years of hair cutting. Even young girls are balding at a faster rate according to her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hairy View Post
    -- One reason could be due to Vitamin D (sunshine vitamin D, and not vitamin D fortified food) deficiency in the northern countries as recent studies seem to indicate a connection between hair loss and vitamin D.

    -- Another probably better reason is diet. There was a famous Japanese study that showed an increasing western diet was correlated to increasing baldness in the Japanese.

    -- Another reason (my own postulation) is that sitting at a desk/monitor all day and thinking a lot (whether in terms of education, computer work, cell phone "work", social networking, porn, 401k etc...) could cause some kind of change in our hormonal balance or DHT-stress pathway. I agree with people who find that homeless people have less baldness. They only think of day to day survival and have no other stresses related to thinking. There was some study in India or Sri Lanka that suggested baldness was much higher in engineers compared to farmers. But this could also be linked again to diet and sunshine as my first two points indicate rather than "thinking". Or genetically predisposed to balding folks tend to be those who gravitate to college and computers? I do not think so, but it is possible.

    Have any of you ever looked at group photos of northern Europeans from 100 years ago? Balding was definitely much less significant back then. Diet and lifestyle as well as some things we cannot control (e.g., plastics and borth control pills related hormone altering stuff in our water) are also potentially accelerating balding. My old hairdresser told me that she had never seen so many high school kids balding in her 30 plus years of hair cutting. Even young girls are balding at a faster rate according to her.
    Interesting, would you care to provide a source to any, or preferably all of the studies you cited?

    I definitely believe that all the junk ppl eat now a days could contribute to earlier signs of hair loss. Although I'm less entusiastic in accepting the idea that hard studies and a deskjob would lead to hair loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hairy View Post
    Have any of you ever looked at group photos of northern Europeans from 100 years ago? Balding was definitely much less significant back then. Diet and lifestyle as well as some things we cannot control (e.g., plastics and borth control pills related hormone altering stuff in our water) are also potentially accelerating balding. My old hairdresser told me that she had never seen so many high school kids balding in her 30 plus years of hair cutting. Even young girls are balding at a faster rate according to her.
    Or maybe evolution is making us bald, as it founds hair useless, !

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    I think its really just caucasian people are most prone to baldness. Especially Northern people (maybe vit d or just genetics). Germanics, Anglos, Slavs etc all seem to bald much more than non caucasians.

    Might just be genetics I was born with thin/fine blonde hair seems much less resilient than thick asian hair or something :P

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