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    Question HST needs improvements- suggestions?

    Lets face it, in order for HST to get more popular technique in hair restoration industry it needs big improvements or else it will just remain in shaddow of FUE/FUT till REAL Hair Multiplication
    arrives, which is could be in the next 5 or 10 yrs,but it will happen.

    In its current shape and form there is no way it will become mainstream, it simply isnt on par with fue/fut some key areas.

    The biggest issue with current HST is not high cost of procedures but its TIME needed to achieve desired goal9especially High NWs

    With normal HT all you need is 2-3 visits which can be done over a period of 1-2 yrs,and you will be done whereas with HST it will take you very long time to achieve the same,
    4-7 years to get high NWs completed with small procedures that are currently on offer.
    That is a BIG diffeence and Im not surprised HST never thretened traditional transplants.


    Its time for Dr Gho to start working on some improvements that HST badlly needs,
    either

    a) sessions needs to increase OR
    b) time between each session needs to decrease


    I think option b is more realistic then option a.

    We know that HASCI only harvest about 10% of available donor per pass and we know
    regeneration occurs withing first 4 weeks.

    is it really necessary to wait 9 months or a year between procedures?
    What are the chances that Gho will harvest the same follicle twice? About 10%, its very low

    Gho can offer second procedure after say 3-4-5 months and TRY to avoid follicles which were extracted in previous procedure OR even if he performs blind harvest again ther is only a low chance of
    10% that he will extract the same follicle again.(benefit outweigh the risks)


    OR Hasci can do the following

    1st procedure hasci extracts 1500 1s only,
    2nd procedure, 4-5 months later, hasci extracts ONLY 2s
    3rd procedure 4-5 mothhs later ,hasci goes for 3s only...

    and is goes through cycles till the final result is achieved

    Any suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by didi View Post
    Any suggestions?
    Sure - try this...
    Quote Originally Posted by didi View Post

    With normal HT all you need is 2-3 visits which can be done over a period of 1-2 yrs,and you will be done
    ... and you will be done. All the best!

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    Quote Originally Posted by didi View Post
    The biggest issue with current HST is not high cost of procedures but its TIME needed to achieve desired goal9especially High NWs

    With normal HT all you need is 2-3 visits which can be done over a period of 1-2 yrs,and you will be done whereas with HST it will take you very long time to achieve the same,
    4-7 years to get high NWs completed with small procedures that are currently on offer.
    I think this concern is slightly overblown for a number of reasons.

    -Firstly, there are many "hairloss sufferers" who are nowhere close to NW 6/7 and could hit their goals in about 2-3 procedures.

    -Also, becoming a NW 6/7 doesn't happen overnight for MOST men. Those who begin balding could get procedures done periodically as their hairloss progresses and never go bald.

    -Finally, you're talking 4-7 years to hit their FINAL goal of going from a NW 6/7 to a NW 1/2 but that doesn't mean that these men wouldn't have a lot of improvements in the intermediate time frames. Lets say you are NW 7 and after a few years you're a NW 4 with a few styling options and no longer have the "horseshow" pattern. Sure, you will still want more, but you'll feel a lot better already before your final result it achieved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by didi View Post
    We know that HASCI only harvest about 10% of available donor per pass and we know
    regeneration occurs withing first 4 weeks.

    is it really necessary to wait 9 months or a year between procedures?
    What are the chances that Gho will harvest the same follicle twice? About 10%, its very low

    Gho can offer second procedure after say 3-4-5 months and TRY to avoid follicles which were extracted in previous procedure OR even if he performs blind harvest again ther is only a low chance of
    10% that he will extract the same follicle again.(benefit outweigh the risks)
    I think that would still cause issues because you'd have a larger number of follicles extracted and thus they would be close together and that could compromise the healing. Gho mentioned this in one of the interviews using an analogy about cutting yourself once and having it heal good but multiple cuts close together don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by didi View Post
    OR Hasci can do the following

    1st procedure hasci extracts 1500 1s only,
    2nd procedure, 4-5 months later, hasci extracts ONLY 2s
    3rd procedure 4-5 mothhs later ,hasci goes for 3s only...

    and is goes through cycles till the final result is achieved
    Clever! That would definitely work! Or how about in the first procedure, only 1s and 2s and in the third only 3s?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandolf View Post
    -Finally, you're talking 4-7 years to hit their FINAL goal of going from a NW 6/7 to a NW 1/2 but that doesn't mean that these men wouldn't have a lot of improvements in the intermediate time frames.
    Most of NW6/7 are generally 30+ in age, have normal work and probably family life and social circle. I fall in this category and personally I would not like to have an "overnight" transformation. It would be way dramatic and would trigger the attention of people I know. I would not like that. A time frame of 4-5 years with a slow decrease of my NW scale fits better my expectations.

    The main difficulty is the cost. I think it is not that different from the cost of other surgery solutions, except FUT which is more cheap, but I would never slaughter my head like this just for hair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vox View Post
    The main difficulty is the cost. I think it is not that different from the cost of other surgery solutions, except FUT, which is more cheap, but I would never slaughter my head like this just for hair.
    You mean your wallet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellouser View Post
    You mean your wallet.
    Well, that too, but FUT is slaughter no matter how you look at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vox View Post
    Well, that too, but FUT is slaughter no matter how you look at it.
    Gho's procedure looks amazing, regardless of how aesthetically pleasing it is compared to Dr. Rahal's hairlines, anything would be an improvement with Gho. Its just too bad that its a) expensive and b) takes a long time in between procedures. Still, to be guaranteed that much donor regrowth essentially means a cure in the end.... time and money willing.

    I'm saving my pennies for a procedure with him hopefully for next year, by then I'll have more than enough but am hoping for a 2,500 graft procedure done.

    This whole balding situation is really... really depressing

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellouser View Post
    .... time and money willing.
    Well, as I said, for "finished" cases like mine time is not an issue. But I understand that it is an issue for the overwhelming majority of people needing simpler procedures.

    Quote Originally Posted by hellouser View Post
    I'm saving my pennies for a procedure with him hopefully for next year, by then I'll have more than enough but am hoping for a 2,500 graft procedure done.

    This whole balding situation is really... really depressing
    I feel for you. I know someone who transitioned very quickly from NW1/2 to NW6 when he was about 33. He was severely depressed during his hair loss phase, and after all this was over, he was acting like an old man. It was incredible!

    At which stage are you right now and how hair loss is progressing on you? Do you believe that 2500 grafts can correct your problem? Sorry to derail the thread but I think it is useful to have lateral talk and thoughts exchange in a more personal level.

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