Taking Fin is an oxymoron and absurd

[Aames]

You are thinking with the wrong head. Are you seriously suggesting that you have no motivation driving you other than your libido? Beauty and aesthetics go far beyond attracting the opposite sex.

[cichlidfort]

You are thinking with the wrong head. Are you seriously suggesting that you have no motivation driving you other than your libido? Beauty and aesthetics go far beyond attracting the opposite sex.

Of course I am not implying that. I am only discussing the anatomical and physiology of where our male confidence is derived, not on any spiritual, ethical, career or intellectual level. I thought that was more than apparent. Also, there are plenty of males out there that are severely depressed over their hair loss. An extreme example would be suicidal thoughts. Of course there are more level-headed males out there that can cope with hair loss and understand what you are saying. I completely agree with you, and I even said it MYSELF in my first post. There's much more to life than beauty and aesthetics hence WHY I made the freakin post.

[Gandolf]

And what about the "plethora" or guys who take Propecia and don't have any side effects of loss of libido?

[BigThinker]

And what about the "plethora" or guys who take Propecia and don't have any side effects of loss of libido?

This.

Exactly what I was going to say, almost verbatim. It's not an oxymoron because a strong majority of men have negligible sides, if any at all.

You don't take your hair in one hand and your genitalia in the other and choose one while discarding the other for eternity.

[cichlidfort]

This.

Exactly what I was going to say, almost verbatim. It's not an oxymoron because a strong majority of men have negligible sides, if any at all.

You don't take your hair in one hand and your genitalia in the other and choose one while discarding the other for eternity.

Please show me some factual evidence that supports your argument "a strong majority of men have negligible sides, if any at all." There's been lawsuits against the drug propecia because it had caused permanent loss in libido for some. Even if majority of men don't experience much side effect, who would want to take that risk? Desperate men in attempt to save their hair that will inevitably fall out anyways, right? There's plenty on this forum alone that experience loss in libido. You don't have to search hard to find the users that report this. My argument still holds water.

[clandestine]

To play devils advocate; a Propecia supporter might then reply:

Those experiencing sides are more likely to visit forums. The same people are likely to be much more vocal regarding negatives experiences undergone. Conversely, those going on without sides are entirely unlikely to even visit forums, much less take the time to tell of positive experiences.

[25 going on 65]

Do not believe everything you read on forums. Finasteride saved my sex life.
Now I am on dutasteride + fin, but so far I still have my libido (and hair)

[cichlidfort]

To play devils advocate; a Propecia supporter might then reply:

Those experiencing sides are more likely to visit forums. The same people are likely to be much more vocal regarding negatives experiences undergone. Conversely, those going on without sides are entirely unlikely to even visit forums, much less take the time to tell of positive experiences.

I like your style but I can take what you said and twist it the opposite way and reply:

Those who took fin and had success were smart about it and came to forums such as this seeking advice about their own hair loss and other personal experiences of the drug propecia. Also, one doesn't have to sign up and register on a forum like this to browse through different threads and discussion topics. I bet there are thousands of propecia users that come across different threads, read what people say and move on without voicing their opinion/experience.

Of course this is all anecdotal talk here. Fact remains, there are plenty of users out there that have negative experiences with the drug and that right there is enough to sway me the other way. I know there are exceptions and success stories. I should have mentioned in my original post that I wasn't speaking to that audience. And, on top of all of this, one would have to take propecia indefinitely for as long as they wanted to stop the hair loss. That is a commitment in finance, and effort. All in all, I am being devils advocate to the drug. To each his own.