There is no hope

[BigThinker]

i've seen that biotin may accelarates mpb,type it on google but probably the user who write it say crap,

how is your hairline?

Here's pictures about 2-3 days old of my hair:

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=11220

My hairline is where it's worst. Diffuse thinning pretty minimal. I'm interested in halting my hair where it is. If I am able to do so, I will be beyond content.

[baldy1990]

As a young balding man who isn't wiling to risk his sexual health (even if the risk is extremely small) by systematically reducing DHT, alternative solutions (meaning outside of the 'approved' meds) are the only hope for saving your hair. Having something to address DHT/Androgens is important, but do not be fooled, that is not the only factor contributing to hair loss, there are other ways to address/attack the multiple causes...

well that's what i'm exactly searching,an alternative treatment !I dont believe fin side effects have such a small chance,also it's not only the sexual side effects,it's deppresion,change in hormones,damage to testicles and to prostate,also fertility damage which by the way i had a problem and i did a surgery before 3 months.

I also have sebborheic dermatitis,i dont know if you know what it is but i have to wash my hair every day so this really doesnt help,seeing my wait semi long hair thinned

[baldy1990]

Here's pictures about 2-3 days old of my hair:

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=11220

My hairline is where it's worst. Diffuse thinning pretty minimal. I'm interested in halting my hair where it is. If I am able to do so, I will be beyond content.

i think you are good looking for now and your hair look good even if they are receded

[Dan26]

well that's what i'm exactly searching,an alternative treatment !I dont believe fin side effects have such a small chance,also it's not only the sexual side effects,it's deppresion,change in hormones,damage to testicles and to prostate,also fertility damage which by the way i had a problem and i did a surgery before 3 months.

I also have sebborheic dermatitis,i dont know if you know what it is but i have to wash my hair every day so this really doesnt help,seeing my wait semi long hair thinned

I have a bad scalp too, eczema and sebborheic dermatitis...bro what country do you live in? Do you have health insurance aka are you covered for presciption meds? If so, go to a dermatologist and try and get dovonex or dovobet. It contains calcipotriol, something that will help your scalp and actually has hair growth properties. Especially f you are not addressing DHT/Androgrens, I highly recommend this treatment as a part of your regimen. Order Sesa oil off ebay/amazon too, helps with seborreic dermatis, it's very cheap, it has shown to be on par with rogain in terms of effectivness (not for MPB but just for hair growth/thickness), it can't hurt to try.

[Aames]

Anti-depressants gave me zero-libido and insane difficulty achieving an erection. I only had side effects my first three days on fin. Why will you try one but not the other? You're being irrational.

[baldy1990]

I have a bad scalp too, eczema and sebborheic dermatitis...bro what country do you live in? Do you have health insurance aka are you covered for presciption meds? If so, go to a dermatologist and try and get dovonex or dovobet. It contains calcipotriol, something that will help your scalp and actually has hair growth properties. Especially f you are not addressing DHT/Androgrens, I highly recommend this treatment as a part of your regimen. Order Sesa oil off ebay/amazon too, helps with seborreic dermatis, it's very cheap, it has shown to be on par with rogain in terms of effectivness (not for MPB but just for hair growth/thickness), it can't hurt to try.

i'm greek ,the derm gave some special sampoo that has zinc .The hairdresser told me to use nizoral but the dermatologist told me that its not good for long term use ,i think i'll add it and ignore him,i'll look what you suggest me,thank you.I must add that the dermatologist told me that sebboria doesnt cause baldness but i kinda think that it causes ,maybe it accelarates the mpb but that is just my theory i have no clues

[Exodus]

As much as I disagree with Aames' Highlander-lite approach, its a fair statement. I've had ED with Anti-depressants, although they make it hard to ejaculate too, which in some cases isn't a bad thing as it can you go longer...


But I guess the point is, if you're willing to take them, why not try Fin? Tbh I should do what BigT is doing and perhaps try 0.25mg EOD to see if I can handle it...

[baldy1990]

the mechanism is total different,the anti-depressants dont cause permanent ed if you stop them and dont affect your test.They are different story although i hate them too but i have no choice

[Dan26]

i'm greek ,the derm gave some special sampoo that has zinc .The hairdresser told me to use nizoral but the dermatologist told me that its not good for long term use ,i think i'll add it and ignore him,i'll look what you suggest me,thank you.I must add that the dermatologist told me that sebboria doesnt cause baldness but i kinda think that it causes ,maybe it accelarates the mpb but that is just my theory i have no clues

It does not actually cause baldness. But scalp health and inflammation are a key factor in hair loss so it is always important to tackle those problems. You should not use Nizoral more than twice a week bro, it has harsh chemicals that could make your scalp worse. If you use 2% use it once a week, if you use 1% use it twice a week.

[baldy1990]

It does not actually cause baldness. But scalp health and inflammation are a key factor in hair loss so it is always important to tackle those problems. You should not use Nizoral more than twice a week bro, it has harsh chemicals that could make your scalp worse. If you use 2% use it once a week, if you use 1% use it twice a week.

ah ok i'll not use it that much!Ok look i had a bad danruff in the front and in the right temple in septemper -november and in january i've seen that the hair in that area were lost

[BigThinker]

i think you are good looking for now and your hair look good even if they are receded

I appreciate the kind words. As I said in that thread, I know I have it good, but it's declining rather rapidly. I'm ready to slow it down or put the brakes on it all together if I can.

Anti-depressants gave me zero-libido and insane difficulty achieving an erection. I only had side effects my first three days on fin. Why will you try one but not the other? You're being irrational.

I took anti-depressant/anti-anxiety medications for 1 month and had the same issue.

Quit them cold turkey and got into cario training and self-medicating with Mary Jane.

[Exodus]

Yeah I took them and got no-where. Instead I discovered the gym.

[baldy1990]

haha i'm surprised of how many took anti-depressants and i thought i was the only one lol,i didnt think they had helped me either but the others dont have the same opinion .I couldnt get an erection 2 weeks after i stopped them,also in the beggining they caused me even more anxiety and deppression,i was living in a hell,i had other sides too and the worst is i'm thinking that they may were responsible for hair, before them ,i felt that they have stronger texture and volume but maybe is just my idea

[BigThinker]

haha i'm surprised of how many took anti-depressants and i thought i was the only one lol,i didnt think they had helped me either but the others dont have the same opinion .I couldnt get an erection 2 weeks after i stopped them,also in the beggining they caused me even more anxiety and deppression,i was living in a hell,i had other sides too and the worst is i'm thinking that they may were responsible for hair, before them ,i felt that they have stronger texture and volume but maybe is just my idea

I think as Generation Y (80's and 90's babies), most of us think we deserve to have life handed to us on a silver platter. When we see others who have it so good, we feel so deprived when in actuality we are blessed to even get to exist. I'm actually in a medical sociology class right now, which is the only reason I'm rambling about that - haha.

But, what I'm getting at is: we go to the doctor and profess that our life is miserable and basically describe all the symptoms that the doctor needs to hear to prescribe us the anti-depressants. When, in my unprofessional opinion, most us just need to change our lifestyles to make ourselves feel better - it's just so much easier to pop a pill and not change ourselves.

[Aames]

the mechanism is total different,the anti-depressants dont cause permanent ed if you stop them and dont affect your test.They are different story although i hate them too but i have no choice

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-SSRI_sexual_dysfunction

Have fun.