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    Lightbulb Going to see an endocrinologist. What questions do you want answered?

    An endocrinologist is a doctor that specialises in the endocrine system, the system that finasteride (propecia) effects. I was referred by my GP because i want to know more specifically how/why reduction of DHT effects me the way it does, rather than just relying on all the heresay online. I'm also going to get tests to establish my baseline DHT before starting on 0.025 fin daily.


    Appointments not for a few weeks and will be expensive as fu€k so I want to get my monies worth!

    If there was ever anything you wanted to know specifically about finasteride, DHT, side effects or anything else write it in the comments and ill ask for you.

    Will post answers here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ball D View Post
    I'm also going to get tests to establish my baseline DHT before starting on 0.025 fin daily.
    you mean 0.25? how can you cut a fin pill into 0.025?

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    Does this pfs thing makes sense? Which purpose dht serves in your body. The role of hormones in sex drive

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    Why do hormones decline with age, yet more and more men start going bald?

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    Are we nothing but manifestations of our own actions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpb47 View Post
    Why do hormones decline with age, yet more and more men start going bald?
    They dont. Its not like we have full heads of hair and then all of a sudden at age 40 our hair falls out.

    At age 18 to 20 we start pumping out so much testosterone that it combines into a hormone called DHT that starts to wreck our hair follicles. I still cannot wrap my head around how it falls out in a PATTERN that falls into all kinds of Norwood categories.

    It all depends on how resistant our hair is to DHT . Almost all of us have resistant hair on the sides and back. Again a total mystery as to why.

    Since we have like 40,000 hairs on the top of our head, or 30 or 20 I dont know the number, burning out follicles is not noticable.

    We burn out 1/2 of them before we even notice it in the mirror. In my case I was about 28 when i noticed it was not as thick as it was before. It takes 50% loss before we even notice.

    So by 35 or so, I was having to keep it a certain length, and style it a certain way . By 42 it now was becoming obvious in the front I was thinning.

    This is my guess as to why we only notice 'older' guys going bald. Fact is we were going bald the whole time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drybone View Post
    They dont. Its not like we have full heads of hair and then all of a sudden at age 40 our hair falls out.

    At age 18 to 20 we start pumping out so much testosterone that it combines into a hormone called DHT that starts to wreck our hair follicles. I still cannot wrap my head around how it falls out in a PATTERN that falls into all kinds of Norwood categories.

    It all depends on how resistant our hair is to DHT . Almost all of us have resistant hair on the sides and back. Again a total mystery as to why.

    Since we have like 40,000 hairs on the top of our head, or 30 or 20 I dont know the number, burning out follicles is not noticable.

    We burn out 1/2 of them before we even notice it in the mirror. In my case I was about 28 when i noticed it was not as thick as it was before. It takes 50% loss before we even notice.

    So by 35 or so, I was having to keep it a certain length, and style it a certain way . By 42 it now was becoming obvious in the front I was thinning.

    This is my guess as to why we only notice 'older' guys going bald. Fact is we were going bald the whole time.
    Bald gene = at some point and time depending on variation androgen receptors appear on certain hair follicles, DHT negatively effects them...ONE of the driving forces of hair loss, though there are many more causes....Growth factors in scalp deplete more in MPB dudes, more inflammation including high levels of dermal facotrs ie things like pdg2...bunch of other crud happens too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan26 View Post
    Bald gene = at some point and time depending on variation androgen receptors appear on certain hair follicles, DHT negatively effects them...ONE of the driving forces of hair loss, though there are many more causes....Growth factors in scalp deplete more in MPB dudes, more inflammation including high levels of dermal facotrs ie things like pdg2...bunch of other crud happens too!
    The information I have that all the other factors such as diet and stress are not a very big part of hair loss. It would have to be pretty severe and ongoing.

    Other things I read like shampoo build up etc are all valid points but again need to be severe cases .

    The average guy who is losing his hair is overwhelmingly due to MPS which is caused chiefly by DHT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drybone View Post
    The information I have that all the other factors such as diet and stress are not a very big part of hair loss. It would have to be pretty severe and ongoing.

    Other things I read like shampoo build up etc are all valid points but again need to be severe cases .

    The average guy who is losing his hair is overwhelmingly due to MPS which is caused chiefly by DHT.
    DHT is more of a driving force then it is a cause...If your scalp had sufficient levels of growth factors, and those levels were maintained, you could have all the DHT in your body you want, and your hair would not go anywhere. The androgen/DHT issue is very misconstrued by the general hair loss community. In reality though, something like Histogen combined with an AA (be it topical or internal) would be a great course of action. CB would be my choice of AA due to impeccable safety profile and the fact it address inflammation as well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cob984 View Post
    you mean 0.25? how can you cut a fin pill into 0.025?
    Nah I mean 0.025 I got sides with .1mg dose, not everyone needs to inhibit their DHT by up to 70% which is what normal doses of fin inhibit so I am trying to find my own personal sweet spot where fin inhibits 20-30 percent of DHT and therefore I only have 20-30 percent of the sides. I feel that fin is necessary to win this hairloss fight but for me, not at such a strong dose.

    I got the idea for this here: http://www.hairlossbuddha.com/finast...o-reduce-them/

    In the comments of this the author of the article says he still had the same regrowth and sides as he did on the higher amounts as he did when he was taking 0.05 so I am going for an even lower dose than that to find an amount of fin that I can actually tolerate.

    The link explains how to separate the dosages at such small quantities. Basically you dissolve the fin in ethanol and all you have to know is the concentration.
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