Long-term minoxidil users?

[Assemblage23]

Well, I didn't have any sides that I was aware of. I got off just because I was concerned about the potential-risk (even though there is no clinical proof of it) of long-term sides.

However, when I got off it I realized that I was having sides but they were not very noticeable till I got off. Basically, by around week 3 my morning erections and libido roared back and truthfully it felt amazing. That feeling is the only thing that has kept me off propecia because it just felt so great and don't ever want to lose that again.

Psychologically, the first 4/5 months off were really, really hard for me. I had no idea what would happen to my hair and I had a 'full' head of hair which has become part of my look (i.e. mid-length curly). I shed a lot right as of week 4 and the quality dropped dramatically. However, I feel like it is slowing. And I also got on a regimen that has helped me feel like I'm doing all I can. It includes;

Nioxin shampoo & conditioner (not to fight MPB but just to improve look of hair)
Nizoral (1/week)
Vitamins (Biotin, Vitamin D, Green Tea Extract)
Rogaine (twice daily)

Obviously, there are only 4 things that can be done to deal with MPB (Hair transplant, propecia, rogaine, nothing) but I'm trying to achieve 3 things by the regime outlined above.

(1) support myself psychologically as I lose the hair save by propecia
(2) mild attempt to slow MPB (Rogaine)
(3) Improve the quality & look of my existing hair (Nioxin, Vitamins, Nizoral)

thanks & best of luck.

Thank your for the very insightful post, I feel like I'm losing my mind these days I just want to know what having my full libido back feels like and I'll make a real decision. I almost felt like popping a propecia pill this afternoon I have this feeling everytime I fee good about the way I currently look.

[montreal6130]

best of luck.

At around week 4 I did try to go back on it but I got real sides after 4 days (testicular pain & brain fog) but I think that is normal as I was creating an hormonal seesaw in my body. 6 months later (today) I also have high cortisol found in a recent blood test. No way of knowing if that is a result of propecia for sure but most likely.

I'm actually still a fan of the medication as it worked amazing just as I got older my hair has become less important to me than my overall health. The best situation I believe is always to not be taking any medication however if hair loss is psychologically crippling than the risk I believe is quite low with fin or at least acceptable.

best of luck.

[Assemblage23]

Describe how your libido came back exactly and how it felt please, I need to be able to tell what's inside my head from what's real. I have no gyno and no ejaculation problems it's just that I rarely get turned on I really have to actively think about the most twisted stuff but a naked girl in front of me is nothing special. And I am pretty sure I have lost some sensitivity. Thank you for the kind words.

What was it like, did you feel horny for no reason all of a sudden?

I hope it will really be worth it I just cant accept baldness I would remove myself from social events and jobs than involve meeting new people and being the center of the attention. It hurts that much.

[montreal6130]

No, u thinking about the 'twisted' stuff is just your craziness and not the medication. . I was recently browsing the propeciahelp forum and a guy was asking whether other people felt they were becoming 'gay' as a result of propecia (no joke but really funny). I almost went back on the medication as a result of that (i.e. those guys r crazy).

sounds like u r freaking out a bit. By increased libido I just felt 'stronger'...almost like I had more energy, more strength. It was not like my d-ck was suddenly flying out of my pants. I felt healthier...the best word is more virile.

btw, of course u need to think of twisted stuff because right now u r worried so how can u naturally get it up if u r worried...so u bring in the twisted stuff. It's like hooking with someone who deep down u really don't like...eventually u start thinking of other women or else it'd be too hard to keep it up.

my unsolicited feedback, get off the Internet, call a buddy and go do something u like...I promise without noticing something will trigger the fact that your libido is perfect.

[Aames]

This is because hereditary hair loss progresses for the rest of ones life. It's a really simple reality that a lot of people have great difficulty understanding.





The problem with that is you do not know what you are talking about and you do not know what you are doing. You are simply parroting garbage you find on the internet.

Please tell me what is incorrect in my post. We agree on the point that minox is not very useful without DHT inhibition (at least in the long term). Why would a DHT inhibitor not make it more effective? I don't expect an answer. Instead of posting a study or using some rational thinking, you will just attack me for recommending topical spiro as a treatment. It has been around for years and lots of people use it with NO SIDES!!!! The tiny amount you are rubbing on your scalp is not nearly enough to turn you into a woman or any sort of nonsense like that. I highly recommend you educate yourself before you continue to attack me.

[Tracy C]

Please tell me what is incorrect in my post.

Why should I bother. It's not like your opinion matters or anything. You are reckless, irresponsible and foolish. You are not worth my time. All you are going to do is come back at me with more garbage you found on the internet.

[Aames]

Why should I bother. It's not like your opinion matters or anything. You are reckless, irresponsible and foolish. You are not worth my time. All you are going to do is come back at me with more garbage you found on the internet.

YOU MEAN GARBAGE LIKE SCIENTIFIC LITERATURE!!?!?!?!?!?!?

I think you are deliberately trying to make the members of this forum go bald. You run around telling people that are clearly balding that they have "mature hairlines" and you put down any treatments not approved by the FDA, no matter the amount of evidence supporting them. Treating MPB is very much in its experimental stages, that means that sometimes you must take risks to treat it. I'm trying to help people manage these risks, instead of encouraging them to "accept" this debilitating, life-altering disease.

[UK_]

Why should I bother. It's not like your opinion matters or anything. You are reckless, irresponsible and foolish. You are not worth my time. All you are going to do is come back at me with more garbage you found on the internet.

The only garbage around here is you.

You're an acidic idiot, clearly something has gone woefully wrong in your life and you feel it necessary to use this forum as a platform to vent your frustrations out on everyone else.

I understand that many men have taken finasteride for 5 - 10 years and more - SPENCER KOBREN IS ONE OF THEM. How many of those men you're on about however have retained their NW scale from the date they started to the 15 year point in their use of Finasteride? The MAJORITY of men experience heightened loss in the 3 - 5 year point (I WAS ONE OF THEM).

[mpb47]

The only garbage around here is you.

You're an acidic idiot, clearly something has gone woefully wrong in your life and you feel it necessary to use this forum as a platform to vent your frustrations out on everyone else.

I understand that many men have taken finasteride for 5 - 10 years and more - SPENCER KOBREN IS ONE OF THEM. How many of those men you're on about however have retained their NW scale from the date they started to the 15 year point in their use of Finasteride? The MAJORITY of men experience heightened loss in the 3 - 5 year point (I WAS ONE OF THEM).

There is no right or wrong answer, well not without statistics. Some people get only a few years, some get 10, but I know of at least one guy who was around a 3V at age 22, got on propcea (no minox) and went back to around a 2 to 2.5 and has stayed that way for over 15 years. He also mentioned that he knew of 2 father & son DR's (well derms actually)who had been on it around 10 years and have not lost any more hair. I can probably find his thread if interested.

And yes you are right that it does stop working after a few years for some. I read a journal article where a 40 something guy got on propecia and had moderate results. After a few years, it quit working and he started going bald again. His Dr put him on Advodart and he got even better results than on propecia. So you may want to consider that.

[Tracy C]

The only garbage around here is you.

You are deeply wrong about that. Some day you will pull your brain dead head out of your butt and you might just realize how deeply wrong you are.

You're an acidic idiot.

Far from it. You are the idiot. I am not.

[z06guy]

Can't we all just get along???

[mpb47]

can't we all just get along???

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+1

[UK_]

Can't we all just get along???

That's all well and good - but you cant post a comment on here anymore without this condescending bald bitch TracyC offering her insight into how overwhelmingly brilliant she is.

TracyC just argues for arguments sake because she hates who she is, she hates everything about herself, she's socially awkward & probably too ugly to have the confidence to speak this manner in public (face to face), so in place she acts out an imaginary persona online (TracyC). This partly explains her notably large commitment to a website dedicated to treating hair loss and her consequent behaviour and attitude toward other members.

[z06guy]

Yes but we're all here together on this forum to help each other out and give our own personal input. We all read things from the internet and from doctors and come to our own conclusion on these matters. If we all had the same mindset this forum would be useless. Let's use our collective knowledge for the better good instead of tearing each other apart with personal insults.

Let's all just start fresh and let bygones be bygones. We may have a difference in opinion on some things but we can be civil about it. You all have given great advice in the past to other members (myself included).

Fresh start.

[Tracy C]

TracyC just argues for arguments sake...

That is absolutely 100% not true. Not a single word of anything you said is true.

Listen fool, you and certain other members are the ones who start the aggression. I am taking the gloves off and fighting back. You attack me, I am going to attack you back. If you do not like that - tuff. You are a complete fool and an even more complete idiot. You could not find your own butt with both hands in broad daylight. And as if being an idiot were not bad enough, you feel the need to be a jerk off and call me names. But if I dare to fight back you idiots get upset about it. If you cannot take what you are dishing out, go back home to your mommy.

This forum is called The Bald Truth. If you do not want to hear the truth now and then, you are in the wrong forum. Because if I don't point out the truth, someone else will. You attack me simply because you don't want to hear the truth. Get your sorry excuse for a man to another forum where they will feed you the BS garbage you want to hear.