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Originally Posted by Gandolf
So you've proven the size of the piece of paper by showing it alongside the ruler, but how do we know that the repicient photo is being shown at the same scale and represent the same surface area??
If you have a better idea, how to figure out the proper size - let me know.
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Originally Posted by 534623
If you have a better idea, how to figure out the proper size - let me know.
You'd have to have the ruler or measuring standard actually in the same picture as the hair.
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Originally Posted by 534623
Nope - but almost correct ...
The estimated area (pic in my previous post) is just around 0.3 cm²!
And there is still a problem involved (why just estimated):
When I want to get a real sharp photo - the USB microscope doesn't allow me not even to breath (no trembling/shaking!). So I must always press the USB micro a little bit to the skin and thereby shrinks the distance to the lense somewhat, because the head's surface is not flat and hard as the table (pic below), and the skin bends somewhat into the USB microscope, what makes the area, in fact, even smaller...so you can calculate around 35-40 grafts per complete square centimeter (cm²).
LOL, its cute how you put in the dimension of the image, 640x480. I hope you realize that image sizes are not the same on every display. Look into Apple 'Retina Display' to figure out why.
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Originally Posted by hellouser
LOL, its cute how you put in the dimension of the image, 640x480. I hope you realize that image sizes are not the same on every display. Look into Apple 'Retina Display' to figure out why.
Yup, at the end of the day, it's very possible that he's not done anything sketchy in the presentation of these pics and got the density that he's calculated. However, given his history here nobody with a brain would put it past him to try and pull the wool over our eyes. He can either doctor the pic or take it with another camera with a dfferent level of zoom, we really have no way to know that the pics were taken under identical specifications and are non edited and thus represent the same surface area. It all comes down to whether or not you believe Ironman to be an honest, reliable, and non-biased source on the topic of HST, which I sure don't.
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Originally Posted by 534623
Now I've made 10 dots into the "proper size" with a normal ballpoint pen...
And now try the following:
Take a normal ballpoint pen, and make some normal DOTS on a sheet of paper and measure the DIAMETER of the ballpointpen-dot;
How big is the diameter of HST grafts and how big is the diameter of the holes they make into the recipient area?
How "big" is 0.5 mm diameter at all?
Lol and what the **** is the significance of you marking up a piece of paper with a ballpoint pen???
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Originally Posted by Gandolf
Lol and what the **** is the significance of you marking up a piece of paper with a ballpoint pen???
THE answer has something to do with my previous post...
http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showpos...3&postcount=12
*LOL*
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A better way to do this would be to use Adobe Illustrator and make a 1cm square with a thin outline at 0.1pt thickness, then make a grid out of dots spaced evenly to get an idea of how many hairs should be within a 1cm square.
Here's a quick diagram I made that shows this;
If you guys want a printable PDF of this to print yourselves and get an accurate showing of density click here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/upupyd
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Originally Posted by hellouser
A better way to do this would be to use Adobe Illustrator and make a 1cm square with a thin outline at 0.1pt thickness, then make a grid out of dots spaced evenly to get an idea of how many hairs should be within a 1cm square.
Are you talking about hairs or FU's here? There has to be more than 70-90 hairs in a cm2 avg. That would only be about 30 FU's
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Originally Posted by gc83uk
Are you talking about hairs or FU's here? There has to be more than 70-90 hairs in a cm2 avg. That would only be about 30 FU's
I'm counting total hairs which gives the aesthetic look of a full head of head rather than the technical crap. If it looks dense, its dense.
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