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    Quote Originally Posted by NotDyingBald View Post

    Another thing that i´ve noticed, it´s, this forum has hundreds of users, and i´ve noticed that only aproxximately 10, appears posting against FIN, and you´re the first in that top ten.
    Here's a poll that contradicts your "broresearch".

    http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=6039

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisis View Post
    Please ignore those who post in defence of Propecia. I believe they have an emotional connection to the drug, such is their desperate longing to keep their hair.

    As you know, Propecia is one of the few drugs that can stop hair loss. It does this by preventing testosterone being converted into DHT - DHT being the culprit responsible for hair loss. It seems that either this mechanism causes side effects, or the drug is having some other unknown affect - unfortunately nobody knows. Further to this, I feel that the studies conducted prior to Propecia's approval by the FDA were methodologically flawed. Also be aware that drug companies (Merck in particular) have a track record for suppressing negative data.

    I have suffered as a result of Propecia too, although my case doesn't seem as bad as yours. I can only suggest that you seek out an endocrinologist and get some blood tests done. Have you reported your case to the relevant drug authority too? You may also have a legal case, so check out your options.

    I know it's frustrating, but ignore those who aren't willing to listen. I am confident that the truth will eventually out.
    Chrisis -

    I have conversed with you in the past and read many of your subsequent posts. I also wish you a speedy recovery and the best of luck with your upcoming surgery. However, even if your problems are related to Propecia (which they may well be), I'm afraid you have to accept that not all will experience these side effects. I would place myself in this number and respectfully disagree with many of your statements. I do however acknowledge your right to express your view and to present information. What I respect less is comments like "desperate longing to keep their hair" or "ignore" the Propecia defence. I think all readers and posters should strive for objectivity wherever possible.

    I hope you take these comments in the manner that were intended and again wish you the best!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8868alex View Post
    What I respect less is comments like "desperate longing to keep their hair" or "ignore" the Propecia defence. I think all readers and posters should strive for objectivity wherever possible.

    I hope you take these comments in the manner that were intended and again wish you the best!
    alex, 'm not offended by your comments, I should clarify I wasn't targeting that at posters like you - sympathetic and aware that side effects exist, but at those who are callous and in complete denial.

    I will try to be less hostile in my future posts, though this is quite an emotive topic for me too naturally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisis View Post
    Please ignore those who post in defence of Propecia. I believe they have an emotional connection to the drug, such is their desperate longing to keep their hair.

    As you know, Propecia is one of the few drugs that can stop hair loss. It does this by preventing testosterone being converted into DHT - DHT being the culprit responsible for hair loss. It seems that either this mechanism causes side effects, or the drug is having some other unknown affect - unfortunately nobody knows. Further to this, I feel that the studies conducted prior to Propecia's approval by the FDA were methodologically flawed. Also be aware that drug companies (Merck in particular) have a track record for suppressing negative data.

    I have suffered as a result of Propecia too, although my case doesn't seem as bad as yours. I can only suggest that you seek out an endocrinologist and get some blood tests done. Have you reported your case to the relevant drug authority too? You may also have a legal case, so check out your options.

    I know it's frustrating, but ignore those who aren't willing to listen. I am confident that the truth will eventually out.
    Chrisis, sorry if my nonsense words, or statistics aren´t as much reliable as your "feel"...

    Also, saying to ignore others opinion, doesn´t give you more credibility.

    And i think you´ve missed my first conclusion, "Sides do exist", so, i´m far away from trying not to listen. And i´m sorry for you. I just want you to understand that you have all the right to warn people about Fin, but that is still a long way between that, and the claims you do.

    Cheers

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    Iv read all ur comments and still can't get my head around all this,the drug has killed me,simple.it needs banning,instead of arguing we should b getting it banned.can all these men that were healthy b4 b wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotDyingBald View Post
    Chrisis, sorry if my nonsense words, or statistics aren´t as much reliable as your "feel"...
    Mere semantics! Show me the type of study I've been asking for on this forum for almost a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmyjames1980 View Post
    This is my story and a warning to anybody put there even the slightest bit worried about hair loss.
    I'm 6"2,v good looking and Neva been short of the female attention,iv lived a fantastic life,great family and great job.i consider myself a perfectionist and loved physical challenges.iv trained hard since I was 16 and built my body in to what I call a machine.i was top at swimming,mountain biking and fought mma for 3 years up until the year of 2011 when my relationship broke down with my girlfriend,the love of my life.i couldn't understand why she didn't want me anymore after I gave her my soul and was offering her a life of happiness and a family.she just wanted to be young again and she walked away debt free with a buisness we had set up in her name,not even 1ce looking back and left me completely heart broken,I was devastated.at this point I felt worthless and working on a building site became the daily target.through stress I began to loose my hair,I was mocked and the joke everyday from lads iv worked with for years,I realised all there jealousy and envy towards me,finally they had something to get at me and they didn't stop with the hurtful comments.feeling so low after the split I went to a cosmetic surgery for some advice,there had to be something they could do,a cream or something to help,I didn't expect to be told about a drug,he was very positive pushing it on me,said the worst case sinario u will have a decreased sex drive that will level out in time and return to normal if I stopped taking it.i came away and thought I'd give it a go,foolish to consume something medical without the proper research.i just thought they were professional people,the best in there field and the drug was approved,why would a drug that was designed for prostate enlargement in old men and cancer prevention then available for prescription for hair loss?i realise now one of its side effects is hair regrowth on the scalp,and I mean side effect,who cares about hair?ur born with none and the chances are we'll die with none so whys it so important inbetween?vanity and the way society criticises you for mother natures way.women get fat,men go bald,simple.i fell into the trap,I was weak at this tough time in my life an didn't think.
    Anyway I took 2 5 ml tablets broke into 4 ova 8 days,I woke up on the morning of the 8th day and couldn't get an erection,no matter how hard I tried or what I thought about,it wouldn't work.i got very worried and threw them in the bin,sat down on line and there found the nightmare in black and white,persistent and perminant sexual side effects due to this drug.i went to my GP and he basically said why did u take that???he said its to late,it's done,that's why we have brains to stop us doin things like this,when u digest something mother nature takes over,and shes very unforgiving.i began to get worse and worse after that,my testicals shrank and became deformed,my body shape changed and my body hair stopped growing,my energy disappeared and my life collapsed.sinse then iv not had an erection,not one,morning,night,day,nothing,iv lost 4 stone in a year,lost my job and am now on the point of living on the street.in 1 year my body has died.Iv sought advice from the leading urologist in the country and he laughed at me,said I'm in a real mess and said that the drug is safe and it's all in my head.really?
    We're ginuie pigs and the drug will be pulled soon due to all those people suffering like me and we'll just be casualties of war.they have designed a drug that can ruin ur life and there makin money from the vulnerable.please,any1 out there worried about loosing your hair,embrace it and be proud to be alive,ur only here for a while so **** caring what u look like and live.there's so help for anyone that's fallen to the sick system and they don't care.
    I'm 32 and will never live my dream now,kids and happiness.my family gets to watch my perish and die slowly and the people who mocked me and were jealous of me are laughing,theve won.
    Jimmy -

    Sincerely hope you are helped with your situation. Despite the best intentions of many of my fellow posters, this thread has unfortunately become a battle ground for the pro's and cons of Propecia usage. In truth, there is no way for anyone here to to diagnose the issues you are presented with or effectively attribute a singular cause. The arguements raised are all possible but NOT definitive by any stretch. However, I would agree that therapeutic input for your obvious low mood is essential. I find the idea of a Urologist (or any other physician) making light of your predicament a total disgrace. Hopefully you have either some family or friends who are only interested in promoting your welfare and assisting you to get real help. Go back to your GP and explain how bad you are feeling and don't take no for an answer. They can then help to get proper treatment and move on from the sheer misery you appear to be in. If your GP is unreceptive, then change to another one. There are those out there who would listen and be able to provide real assistance. Whatever the reason/s for your problems, I'm sure you can be helped.

    The very best of luck to you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmyjames1980 View Post
    any1 out there worried about loosing your hair,embrace it and be proud to be alive,ur only here for a while so **** caring what u look like and live.there's so help for anyone that's fallen to the sick system and they don't care.
    Yeah totally sucks for sure, but..... I just proudly splattered an horseload of warm cream all over the tiles in my bathroom, and now I am feeling very happy, at least until tomorrow morning when I'm a bit uneasy about getting 'up' due to a pesky boner persistently sticking out like an exclamation mark, although I should then already stop hanging around if I was to renew my finasteride prescription before my appointment at my hairdresser. My biggest problem right now - next to a volatile bunch wanting the stuff which helps in getting me laid to be pulled - is what's gonna clean up my bathroom.

    Actually I've already been here for a while, and I gather I will be here at least a bit longer, so I'm gonna need more finasteride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clarence View Post
    Yeah totally sucks for sure, but..... I just proudly splattered an horseload of warm cream all over the tiles in my bathroom, and now I am feeling very happy, at least until tomorrow morning when I'm a bit uneasy about getting 'up' due to a pesky boner persistently sticking out like an exclamation mark, although I should then already stop hanging around if I was to renew my finasteride prescription before my appointment at my hairdresser. My biggest problem right now - next to a volatile bunch wanting the stuff which helps in getting me laid to be pulled - is what's gonna clean up my bathroom.

    Actually I've already been here for a while, and I gather I will be here at least a bit longer, so I'm gonna need more finasteride.

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    Anyway I took 2 5 ml tablets broke into 4 ova 8 days,I woke up on the morning of the 8th day and couldn't get an erection,no matter how hard I tried or what I thought about
    Wow....man, go see a Shrink....your in dire need, everything shriveled is right, you lost what you had left of your mind too....!

    I spared the rest of the audience not posting the remaining rambling incoherent post....good lord.

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