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It's shocking to me that this Nigam bullshit keeps going.
The guy has been caught faking and manipulating photos. He claims to offer literally every hairloss treatment conceivable. He's solved the hair multiplication problem that researchers at Aderans and Replicel have been working on for years and years. He offers an HST-like doubling treatment that is better than Dr. Gho's, despite only offering such a treatment for a couple of months. And if none of those work, he'll let you have free synthetic hair implants on the house!
He's provided absolutely no compelling evidence whatsoever. It's such an obvious example of a conman yet the desperation of hairloss keeps his name around the forums.
If Spencer interviews him, a lot of naive people might take it as an endorsement. The last thing that we need to see are a bunch of desperate hairloss sufferers flying to Mumbai and getting exploited. What's worse is that there is absolutely no guarantees on the safety of any of his procedures, and he admitted as such. People could be going there and getting injected with God knows what.
Don't worry, if this guy's solved hairloss, you'll know very soon. Until then, trust your instincts and don't waste your time.Comment
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whats up with OBI guy, he had treatment with dr nigam,
havent heard from himComment
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I hope to see OBI's progress too.
And yes, I believe there is something good behind nigam. I think he's here to stay, not just make a quick buck and disappear. My gut feeling says that, we'll see...
ps have you heard the breakthrough news about scientists basically almost found a cure for aids? I don't know the details, just heard it on the radio. Point is, science is developing exponentially, therefore, I strongly believe in 2020 we'll have completely natural looking NW7 to NW3 like standard and not costing more than $30k.
Maybe even earlier considering all the major players are on to something -aderans/histogen/replicel/nigam/lauster/follica/team tokio plus who knows how many unknown labs...Comment
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possible, but then why does he offer the procedure for free and why would he do that if he probably already has a good running HT clinic.
Based on his messages on this forum, he seem someone that is very excited about the culture development and the last papers and want to see how that works out in practice .
while aderans etc, where inventing the wheel all these years , he is not Reinventing it, but producing it based on the concept of their papers. Lets see what time brings
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I think its way to early to be making any claims about price and things of that nature seeing how we're not even entire sure if Dr. Lauster is even going to make this a priority to turn it into a commercial product. We really need to reach out to him and see what his plans are and so far we don't have anything concrete.Comment
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The biggest cost-factors with this kind of “hair multiplication” are the laboratory facilities.
Try to imagine a production (of course an always controlled production) of THOUSANDS of hair follicles for THOUSANDS of patients – not just AGA patients, also for burn victims who got –for example- skin transplants etc but without hair.
In addition, the costs of the hair transplant surgeon, who has to implant the in vitro grown hair follicles. Actually, such an approach just makes sense for very high norwoods or burn victims with scalp- facial- legs- chest- etc burns.
Nevertheless - such a procedure costs without any doubts more than normal hair transplant procedures, besides the problem that even with this approach, you can’t implant the follicles too dense just with 1 procedure.
But once this technique WORKS at all – pretty cool, because this would be a quantum leap in general.
The TECHNOLOGY itself for doing this is already there - but there is still a lack of hair biology knowledge for the fruition of such procedures.Comment
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I know this is going a bit over the deep end, but does anyone know if it's possible and cost effective to graft cultured skin onto peoples heads in place of the natural skin as a precursor to giving people a completely new head of hair. I'm not saying this just because I think it's cool sci-fi. I'm asking because when I think of the costs to culture a full head of cloned hair, I think it's already so high why not grow the skin too.Comment
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Oh and hey Boldy!
Can you or anyone else say what it costs to buy these growth factors, and to setup labs to use them for HM and other processes to culture cells like they do with cartilage? Are there any kind of metrics you can give?
From what I read on the internet, my gut tells me HM can be done at a price of $20,000 or less in the US and EU with a profit margin over 50%, but is this realistic or is there a more precise answer?
Thanks!Comment
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I have ben thinking about this for some weeks...
we have at least 3 categories of costs here:
1: renting the facility (lab + equipment Incubator, microscopes etc)
2: labour of atleast 3 workers
3: Material costs
Lets start with labour: extracting +- 200 hair folicles + isolating the DP cells would be atleast 1 full day work. by 1-2 lab workers.
the culture process takes about +- 5 weeks (regarding aderans)
so these workers have to be payed for lets say 2 months.
at the end of the process the cells will be injected..
material costs: the growth factories and chemicals like gsk3b inhibitors in Vitro are very minimal, and don't think it would exceed the 500-1 K per person. This price should include the culture media etc.
now the last part: renting a lab... I'm not sure if its legal and possible to just do that.. And not sure what the costs will be.. Its not likely to happen in Europe USA/ UK.. at least I don't think so...
I'm afraid that This leaves us not much options besides Asia.. there it could be possible for 4-5 K to do such a procedure...Comment
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You're as bold as any hero I can think of Boldy
The most important costs would be the bulk material costs. This is the only one that really matters to me because it can't be improved. Equipment costs would be the next thing I'd want to know if I could know an exact number, but this is just an initial investment really and not as relevant over the long term because over time the equipment will change I think.
Thanks!Comment
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bulk or non bulk the material costs will be between 500 and 1K.. Its not that big of a deal.. However finding a facility in Europe/UK/US is not realistic. No one will allow us to do non approved stuff in there..You're as bold as any hero I can think of Boldy
The most important costs would be the bulk material costs. This is the only one that really matters to me because it can't be improved. Equipment costs would be the next thing I'd want to know if I could know an exact number, but this is just an initial investment really and not as relevant over the long term because over time the equipment will change I think.
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If our Asian friends could exactly do what we ask them to (dp culture regarding the current knowledge), than I would say the issue is solved. and in that case 4-5K per person would be not unrealistic.
I'm going to study the dp thing deeper, go through all the papers out there, and see what is possible.
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