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    The cost should also come down as it gets mass-produced.

    How much it comes down is anyone's guess.

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    Unfortunately I'd spend $325/month in a heartbeat to go up a Norwood and thicken existing hair...

    Thankfully I'm in the minority here

    I can never get my phases right, is phase 2 a safety test or an efficacy test? If phase 2 results are positive at high dosages could we produce this stuff on our own and have at it? I mean it's not like Histogen or something mysterious; we know and can obtain the stuff now. Whaddya think Pate? Cost aside, is it possible that guys like Kane will be selling MBP level Bit in 2013?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pate View Post
    The cost should also come down as it gets mass-produced.

    How much it comes down is anyone's guess.
    any idea of when it will be on market?

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    Quote Originally Posted by john2399 View Post
    any idea of when it will be on market?
    I read recently somewhere that this product is in Phase II trials and it won't hit the market until about 2 years from now. I do not know how accurate that is considering it is already cleared for the purpose of regrowing eye lashes...but again, that's what I read.

    I wouldn't hold my breath on any of these new "treatments" to be released any time soon. It's all politics and I always hear only 5 years out, blah blah. I sincerely hope at least bimatoprost will be released soon because by the time Histogen and these other treatments arrive I might be a high Norwood. If something were to come out within the next 2 years I might be able to save my hair! God willing.

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    I once tried to use this stuff to grow my moustache, it didnt work at all.

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    Based on Allergan's Q4 Earnings call......still no feedback on their Phase II trials:

    Scott M. Whitcup - Chief Scientific Officer and Executive Vice President of Research & Development
    So David, as we've stated before with the hair growth program, we had data rolling in, continuing through the end of the year and have stated that we would present those data at a conference in the second half. We haven't really commented on those data per our policy. What we've said is, if there were a dose that had great efficacy and differentiation from minoxidil, we'd go into Phase III. Should we not see that differentiation, but still see a positive signal that it was growing hair, we have the ability to increase the dose fairly substantially in a Phase IIb. So you'll get an indication of where we're at either when you see the data or if you see either a Phase III or a Phase IIb on clinicaltrials.gov, but we haven't announced anything further than that.

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    We're havin a group buy if people are interested in using this

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    If this thickened and darkened his existing hair and formed vellus hairs with .03% concentration then a 3% solution, which is 100 times the strength may be an incredible treatment.

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    Staythick, Based on information directly from past Allergan earnings calls they said the 2 current Phase II trials (1 for women & 1 for men) would end in July 2012 and then the results would be available near the end of 2012. They also said at the time that if results were positive, Allergan would gear up for Phase III immediately. That would have put them on a pace to begin Phase III in very early 2013. In fact, they also said at the time that as soon as they "start getting any positive feedback", they would gear up for Phase III. Since Phase II took about a year, I presume Phase III could also be completed in about a year.

    However, it doesn't appear that they are "gearing up" yet. They have still not released Phase II results and said in their last earnings call in 2012 that the results would not be released until sometime in 2013 and that they did not know yet whether they would go directly to Phase III or double back and do a Phase IIb......i.e. a different formulation. So its up in the air at the moment but there will be another earnings call in just over a week so we should find out more shortly.

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    I've been making my own solution containing Prostaglandin the key ingredient in Bimatoprost
    I'm almost at month 2, I haven't noticed my regrowth yet but it has stopped my hair loss
    My existing hair does seem stronger than before

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