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  • mpb47
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 676

    #16
    Originally posted by Tracy C
    You are allowed to disagree - but you are still wrong. MPB is not hair loss that is induced by medication or "what not". My statement that castration will stop MPB is 100% correct and true. Your entire argument is invalid because the conditions you are describing is not MPB.
    He may be referring to the twin study that is always talked about.

    One twin was castrated while very young, the other was not.

    The normal twin developed mpb gradually over time, while the castrated twin kept all of his hair.

    Later, like in middle age, the castrated twin was given testosterone and developed mpb rapidly and caught up with his brother in like 6 months...or so the story goes...

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    • BigThinker
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2012
      • 1507

      #17
      Originally posted by mpb47
      One twin was castrated while very young, the other was not.
      ........ human subjects?

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      • mpb47
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 676

        #18
        Originally posted by mpb47
        Here is another very unscientific and very weird way to predict when mpb will begin. It may be totally "old wives tale" but it did seem to be true for me.

        One night a friend looked into both my ears- I asked her what she was doing and she replied she was looking to see if there was any sign of hair. She said once hair starts growing in your ears/nose, mpb will soon begin and swore she saw it happen to both her brother and one of her bf's. She said to periodically check for it and if I saw it, mpb would start soon.

        Well I had mild recession at that point nothing else and my ears were clear. But a few years later , my crown started and I did find 1 or 2 hairs in my ears and also a bit more in my nose. Again, may be total bs, but figured I would mention it any case anyone else had noticed the same thing.
        My friends idea of checking my ears for hair growth may not be so crazy after all. Check out this this site had to say:

        "It is interesting that testosterone effects axillary and pubic hair, whereas DHT effects beard growth, patterned baldness and the appearance of hair in the nose and ears (something that older men experience). Scalp hair growth, however, is not androgen dependent, only scalp hair loss depends on androgens."

        So she may have been right after all. I noticed the new hair had started appearing along with a temporarily extra high libido very shortly before my crown began to thin. Anyone else notice this?

        Here is the link:

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        • mpb47
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 676

          #19
          Originally posted by BigThinker
          ........ human subjects?
          Yes ...do a Google search. Even Spenser mentions it in a book:

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          One of of the studies I read made it a point to mention that the normal boy developed MPB gradually over many years, which is how it often happens to many of us. But the castrated boy was not given Testosterone to around middle age and caught up to his normal brother in like 6 months.

          Also do a seach on Google for FTM. Many women report rapid mpb and some think women get mpb faster than men, if given testosterone. My guess is that they are simply catching up to where their brother would be had they been given T at the same time their brothers got it naturally at puberty. Just a guess but it makes sense.

          Also this news article says castration makes you live longer. Maybe get nipped at 70+ when nothing works anyway

          Go to NBCNews.com for breaking news, videos, and the latest top stories in world news, business, politics, health and pop culture.

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          • Tracy C
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 3125

            #20
            Many years ago, the catholic church would have musically gifted choir boys castrated so their voices would not change. Another result of these boys being castrated so young is they never developed MPB. They never even developed the mature male hair line.

            MTF transsexuals who have MPB experience the condition coming to a halt after they are castrated during the sex change operation. They don't grow much hair back - if any at all - but their MPB stops dead in it's tracks.

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            • Dan26
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 1270

              #21
              Originally posted by Tracy C
              You are allowed to disagree - but you are still wrong. MPB is not hair loss that is induced by medication or "what not". My statement that castration will stop MPB is 100% correct and true. Your entire argument is invalid because the conditions you are describing is not MPB.
              Wowsers the science behind hair loss is so misunderstood by the general public....in fact the general medical and scientific community as well...

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