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  • thechamp
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 1770

    2013

    2013 and propecia and minoxidil and nizoral are our best options how pathetic when is this going to change !!
  • john2399
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 527

    #2
    It is just pathetic.

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    • youngsufferer
      Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 42

      #3
      Mommy take care of me! Take care of me while I lay here and do nothing! You're not doing a good enough job!


      No wonder our culture gets away with shaming baldness, look at how whiny bald men are.

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      • hellouser
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 4423

        #4
        Dr. Roland Lauster needs to be given the go ahead and turn his findings into a treatment and a consumer treatment. The guy basically has the final answer but all this legal maneuvering he's gotta go through is whats holding us back.

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        • Pate
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2011
          • 427

          #5
          Originally posted by youngsufferer
          No wonder our culture gets away with shaming baldness, look at how whiny bald men are.
          I think you're confusing cause and effect there. Bald men are whiny and depressive because of the constant stream of shaming they have to put up with.

          It is a pretty sad state of affairs though. It's been recognised for centuries that a baldness cure is a surefire path to riches, yet we're still here where the gold standard pharmacological treatment aims to simply delay your hair loss by a few years.

          We've seen so many treatments since Propecia came on the market that promised to be better but faded into obscurity. The only one that seriously looked like it would challenge Propecia was RU, and the companies that have held the patent have sat on it for almost a decade now, forcing us to get it via slightly less-than-legal means, with no oversight or quality control.

          And now we're still looking at 2015 at the absolute earliest before we get a new product, which will probably just be bimatoprost.

          I'd say baldies have a lot to be bitter about.

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          • Pate
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 427

            #6
            Originally posted by hellouser
            Dr. Roland Lauster needs to be given the go ahead and turn his findings into a treatment and a consumer treatment. The guy basically has the final answer but all this legal maneuvering he's gotta go through is whats holding us back.
            The other thing that is depressing, apart from the legal and administrative red tape they have to go through, is how hard it is for them to get funding.

            Only Aderans has had enough funding. It really shows how nobody really believes any of them will find a true cure - because a true cure or even just a truly effective treatment would be a no-brainer of an investment.

            But nobody wants to give them money, so obviously nobody believes they can do it.

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            • jgold
              Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 58

              #7
              we should form a posse / gang to force them to make us something that will work or help. realistic?

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              • jman91
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 238

                #8
                Maybe they should employ a crowd sourcing model to raise funds by making an an easy way to donate to these companies. Major lobby groups in america raise hundreds of millions a year by doing this. the giant demographic of sufferers would allow huge sums to be donated e.g if the 40 million hairloss sufferers in the US alone donated just $20 a year that would amount to 800 million dollars a year, with that kind of funding hairloss would be a thing of the past within 5 yrs....lets remember that companies like histogen are doing what they do with only 20-30 million dollars (that's just 75 cents a year from all US hairloss sufferes)! Maybe the bald truth admins should even set up a donations tool on this site.

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                • DepressedByHairLoss
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 876

                  #9
                  You're right, today's options are not only limited, but completely and utterly pathetic. Most of us are so determined to fight hair loss and we need much better options to do so. Yeah, Roland Lauster really does seem to have an awesome solution to hair loss. Hair loss treatments do not get the necessary funding because hair loss is not considered a life-threatening disease. And it gets so marginalized and made fun of in the media, that many people so very wrongly consider it to be a joke and not a big deal.

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                  • Kirby_
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 447

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DepressedByHairLoss
                    You're right, today's options are not only limited, but completely and utterly pathetic.
                    Barely better than useless, yes. It depresses me so much to see people doing ridiculous things to compensate like taking the current trendy food supplement of the season - one might as well pray to one's pet poodle to stop your hairloss than that.

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                    • Tracy C
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 3125

                      #11
                      Originally posted by john2399
                      It is just pathetic.
                      Not long ago, it was not possible to do anything about hereditary hair loss. Hereditary hair loss is not a disease. It is a natural and normal human trait. Like it or not, that is the truth about it. The only reason the medical research community has done anything about it at all is because of the profit potential that exists. Treatments for hereditary hair loss will get better - but development will continue to take a back seat to more life threatening conditions. It just is what it is.

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                      • Tracy C
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 3125

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Kirby_
                        Barely better than useless, yes.
                        I am so very sorry that the current treatments are not working for you. However, the truth is they do work for most people who use them. We do need something better - and something better will happen - but what is available now still works for most people. They are not perfect and sadly they do not work for everyone, but they are still better than than the nothing we had not long ago.

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                        • Kiwi
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 1105

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Tracy C
                          I am so very sorry that the current treatments are not working for you. However, the truth is they do work for most people who use them. We do need something better - and something better will happen - but what is available now still works for most people. They are not perfect and sadly they do not work for everyone, but they are still better than than the nothing we had not long ago.
                          I don't agree that you can say that they work for MOST people.

                          I have been reading TBT for years now. MOST people here (in the "future treatments thread") experience side effects with fin. While I appreciate the good intentions Tracy I don't think this is the right place to talk up that ****ing scummy drug that they call Propecia.

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                          • Kiwi
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 1105

                            #14
                            Of course that said... I still totally love your work gorgeous!

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                            • jman91
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 238

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Kiwi
                              I don't agree that you can say that they work for MOST people.

                              I have been reading TBT for years now. MOST people here (in the "future treatments thread") experience side effects with fin. While I appreciate the good intentions Tracy I don't think this is the right place to talk up that ****ing scummy drug that they call Propecia.

                              Most the people claiming to experience sexual sides are just paranoid becuase of the mass online hysteria about sexual sides. There are plenty of common prescription drugs prescribed to way more people than fin that potentially cause sexual sides but because they are prescribed for medical rather than cosmetic use physicians and people alike dont read so deeply into the list of sides. The list of sides for paracetamol alone would scare the hell out of people if there was the equivalent level hype about sides. I know some people really do experience sides, but its just no more significant than many other drugs.

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