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    Apparently, BigThinker, your not thinking very big after-all based upon what you have just stated here. Among other things you said-"gun control isn't going to fix this. It's just going to piss a bunch of people off.."
    Really? How do you know that as being a fact?
    You lack empathy and smack of pessimism.
    Dr Jeffrey Sachs has recently addressed this issue with FACTS.
    He used Australia as a good example of what real gun control could do--

    "America needs to find a better way.
    Other countries have done so. Between the mid-1970’s and the mid-1990’s, Australia had several mass shootings. After a particularly horrible massacre in 1996, a new prime minister, John Howard, declared that enough was enough. He instituted a severe crackdown on gun ownership, and forced would-be gun owners to submit to a rigorous application process, and to document why they would need a gun.

    Conditions for gun ownership in Australia are now very strict, and the registration and approval process can take a year or more. Howard’s government also implemented a rigorous “buyback” policy, to enable the government to purchase guns already owned by the public.

    The policy WORKED. While violent crime has not ended in Australia, murders are DOWN, and, even more dramatically, there has NOT been a single mass shooting since 1996 in which three or more people died (the definition used in many studies of mass shootings). Before the crackdown, there had been 13 such massacres in 18 years.."
    Do some studying 'BigThinker

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    RIP from ireland

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    THANK YOU Elnino !

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFye View Post
    I can take my car and drive it through a place with a lot of people at 100 mph and kill alot more than 26. Should we ban cars?
    The primary purpose of a car is to travel. It has a valid purpose. The primary purpose of a gun is to kill. You cannot compare the two.

    Shame on those who offer anything but sympathy for the victims. There are plenty of opportunities for political discussions; these people deserve some respect.

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    i have no sympathy at all for the boy and his condition. i suffer from social anxiety and i know how frustrated and pent up anger you can have or blame on other people but to do something like this is probably his "vengeance" on what he hated about himself,his childhood, saw this smiling faces and realised he was never happy as a kid and how they "mistreated" him. to be satan himself and look at those innocent kids and pull the trigger is something he could not do. i just find it surreal how the human mind works sometimes.

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    Great responses Chris / Elnino Thank you..its all about these kids right now..

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    You're right, Artista, it is all about the kids now and the other 6 adult victims of this tragedy, as well as the parents who have to live their lives now with the loss of their child. Although we do stand on opposite sides of the gun control issue, this thread isn't about that. Like you inferred, this thread is about showing sympathy for the victims, and it's good of you to start this thread to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DepressedByHairLoss View Post
    You're right, Artista, it is all about the kids now and the other 6 adult victims of this tragedy, as well as the parents who have to live their lives now with the loss of their child. Although we do stand on opposite sides of the gun control issue, this thread isn't about that. Like you inferred, this thread is about showing sympathy for the victims, and it's good of you to start this thread to begin with.
    He showed his sympathy and than threw in his political bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artista View Post
    Apparently, BigThinker, your not thinking very big after-all based upon what you have just stated here. Among other things you said-"gun control isn't going to fix this. It's just going to piss a bunch of people off.."
    Really? How do you know that as being a fact?
    You lack empathy and smack of pessimism.
    Dr Jeffrey Sachs has recently addressed this issue with FACTS.
    He used Australia as a good example of what real gun control could do--

    "America needs to find a better way.
    Other countries have done so. Between the mid-1970’s and the mid-1990’s, Australia had several mass shootings. After a particularly horrible massacre in 1996, a new prime minister, John Howard, declared that enough was enough. He instituted a severe crackdown on gun ownership, and forced would-be gun owners to submit to a rigorous application process, and to document why they would need a gun.

    Conditions for gun ownership in Australia are now very strict, and the registration and approval process can take a year or more. Howard’s government also implemented a rigorous “buyback” policy, to enable the government to purchase guns already owned by the public.

    The policy WORKED. While violent crime has not ended in Australia, murders are DOWN, and, even more dramatically, there has NOT been a single mass shooting since 1996 in which three or more people died (the definition used in many studies of mass shootings). Before the crackdown, there had been 13 such massacres in 18 years.."
    Do some studying 'BigThinker
    If you want to live in a police state like Australia than go right ahead. you get thrown in jail for choosing not to vote. Australia is not some beacon for people to follow. LOL at you citing some doctor. 90% of "doctors" and "scientists" now a days are nothing more than pseudoscientists either looking to make money or shove some political agenda down your throat.

    Switzerland has some of the lowest gun related crime in the world and just about everyone in Switzerland owns guns. By your logic there shoud be a mass shooting over there everyday right?

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    Switzerland has 14x the firearm-related death-rate per 100,000 population in one year, compared to UK

    Switzerland 3.5 firearm-related death-rate per 100,000 population in one year
    UK 0.25 firearm-related death-rate per 100,000 population in one year

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