Histogen show "cosmetic" results oct 2012 update

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  • Kiwi
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 1105

    Histogen show "cosmetic" results oct 2012 update

    It's coming lads!!!! It's coming.,.

    First time in 8 years I've been doing this shit that one of them announced "cosmetic" results:
  • NotBelievingIt
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 595

    #2
    The bigger question remains: when!?

    And the biggest: how long will it last?!

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    • mjolnir
      Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 67

      #3
      I think the biggest question is whether it's compoundable. I wouldn't mind needing repeat treatments if enough of them would get my crown back to full thickness.

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      • UK_
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 2744

        #4
        Originally posted by NotBelievingIt
        The bigger question remains: when!?

        And the biggest: how long will it last?!
        Well the members of the first trial experienced hair growth beyond the 2 year point! And that was with just a single dose of their lowest strength compound! This is a treatment designed to last a lifetime!

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        • NotBelievingIt
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2011
          • 595

          #5
          Originally posted by mjolnir
          I think the biggest question is whether it's compoundable. I wouldn't mind needing repeat treatments if enough of them would get my crown back to full thickness.
          Good point, that and how long it lasts. Even if its compoundable if you have to redo it every 5 years...at some point you gotta realize you are gonna need the money to retire, unless you're well off.

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          • yeahyeahyeah
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 1818

            #6
            Originally posted by NotBelievingIt
            Good point, that and how long it lasts. Even if its compoundable if you have to redo it every 5 years...at some point you gotta realize you are gonna need the money to retire, unless you're well off.
            tbh dont think i will give a shit about hairloss once i hit post 45+

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            • Follicle Death Row
              Senior Member
              • May 2011
              • 1066

              #7
              Seems promising. Wonder when this can be on the market.

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              • hellouser
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 4423

                #8
                Originally posted by NotBelievingIt
                Good point, that and how long it lasts. Even if its compoundable if you have to redo it every 5 years...at some point you gotta realize you are gonna need the money to retire, unless you're well off.
                If youre worried about a relatively insignificant procedure like this potentially once every 5 years affecting your retirement plan, perhaps you don't have a good retirement plan to begin with.

                These injections aren't going to break the bank.

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                • yeahyeahyeah
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1818

                  #9
                  Originally posted by hellouser
                  If youre worried about a relatively insignificant procedure like this potentially once every 5 years affecting your retirement plan, perhaps you don't have a good retirement plan to begin with.

                  These injections aren't going to break the bank.
                  And more importantly, as time goes on better treatments are likely to come out with histogen getting cheaper.

                  When histogen is released , it will be a game changer, companies will look to build upon it, much like when CDs replaced cassettes etc.

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                  • mjolnir
                    Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 67

                    #10
                    Originally posted by hellouser
                    If youre worried about a relatively insignificant procedure like this potentially once every 5 years affecting your retirement plan, perhaps you don't have a good retirement plan to begin with.

                    These injections aren't going to break the bank.
                    Well we don't know that - the cost will be whatever the market can bear, and if a few rich people are willing to pay a lot of money to keep their hair, then those not quite so well off may have to think twice before making the investment.

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                    • yeahyeahyeah
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 1818

                      #11
                      Originally posted by mjolnir
                      Well we don't know that - the cost will be whatever the market can bear, and if a few rich people are willing to pay a lot of money to keep their hair, then those not quite so well off may have to think twice before making the investment.
                      histogen want to capture the market share. This means overtaking existing treatments

                      They wont do that if they charge it an extremely high prices.

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                      • hellouser
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 4423

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mjolnir
                        Well we don't know that - the cost will be whatever the market can bear, and if a few rich people are willing to pay a lot of money to keep their hair, then those not quite so well off may have to think twice before making the investment.
                        A hair transplant won't cost more than $12,000 CAD, and thats with Gho at 2,500 grafts. If you can't save up $12,000 in 5 years, you need to reevaluate your finances. Histogen cannot cost an unrealistic amount. 12k is already pushing it with Gho, I can't see Histogen costing more than $15,000, the market most likely won't allow it. Whats more likely to happen is that they'll price it at the maximum the market can handle, and all other solutions will trickle down in price... as in, expect the rest of the industry to be shitting bricks when Histogen becomes an option, they'll be forced to drive their own prices down to stay competitive and Histogen will have to price it accordingly. Out with the old, in with the new.

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                        • rdawg
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 1019

                          #13
                          Originally posted by hellouser
                          A hair transplant won't cost more than $12,000 CAD, and thats with Gho at 2,500 grafts. If you can't save up $12,000 in 5 years, you need to reevaluate your finances. Histogen cannot cost an unrealistic amount. 12k is already pushing it with Gho, I can't see Histogen costing more than $15,000, the market most likely won't allow it. Whats more likely to happen is that they'll price it at the maximum the market can handle, and all other solutions will trickle down in price... as in, expect the rest of the industry to be shitting bricks when Histogen becomes an option, they'll be forced to drive their own prices down to stay competitive and Histogen will have to price it accordingly. Out with the old, in with the new.
                          Histogen at $15000 is laughable, there's a reason why many dont do a hair transplant and part of that is the cost. $12000 is on the lower end, most are higher but still, It's hard to justify tossing $15000 on a bit of hair when you're only making say 40,000 a year(if you're younger or whatever) it's just not practical.

                          Histogen will be in the hundreds range IMO as that's cheap enough so that every hairloss sufferer can afford it once every few years. Once you get into the $1000's, you lose customers.

                          EDIT: because this product is not a fullout reversal as well, it seems, so far, to only help with more moderate loss although I'm not sure what happens if you continue to inject in different spots.

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                          • yeahyeahyeah
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 1818

                            #14
                            Originally posted by rdawg
                            Histogen at $15000 is laughable, there's a reason why many dont do a hair transplant and part of that is the cost. $12000 is on the lower end, most are higher but still, It's hard to justify tossing $15000 on a bit of hair when you're only making say 40,000 a year(if you're younger or whatever) it's just not practical.

                            Histogen will be in the hundreds range IMO as that's cheap enough so that every hairloss sufferer can afford it once every few years. Once you get into the $1000's, you lose customers.

                            EDIT: because this product is not a fullout reversal as well, it seems, so far, to only help with more moderate loss although I'm not sure what happens if you continue to inject in different spots.
                            When I enquired about HT, I got quotes from Ferundi and Hasson and wong for 9k.

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                            • mjolnir
                              Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 67

                              #15
                              Originally posted by hellouser
                              A hair transplant won't cost more than $12,000 CAD, and thats with Gho at 2,500 grafts. If you can't save up $12,000 in 5 years, you need to reevaluate your finances. Histogen cannot cost an unrealistic amount. 12k is already pushing it with Gho, I can't see Histogen costing more than $15,000, the market most likely won't allow it. Whats more likely to happen is that they'll price it at the maximum the market can handle, and all other solutions will trickle down in price... as in, expect the rest of the industry to be shitting bricks when Histogen becomes an option, they'll be forced to drive their own prices down to stay competitive and Histogen will have to price it accordingly. Out with the old, in with the new.
                              I can easily save up $12k in 5 years. I can easily save up $12k in 6 months. That doesn't mean I want to spend that much on my vanity.

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