Taking .05mg finasteride effective with fewer side effects?

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  • CurlyBird
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 105

    #16
    Originally posted by Benis23
    I am actually trying this strategy, but am having some trouble getting the finasteride to dissolve. I am using 151 proof Everclear (which I believe is the highest proof alcohol you can buy in California), but there are still visible undissolved pieces of finasteride in the solution, even after leaving it settle for a day. Anyone else have this problem?
    Some of that may be due to the coating on the outside of the pill. I would suggest crushing up the pill first until it is a powder. Or else you could use sandpaper or something to sand off the outer coating first if that is indeed the problem. Even if there is some that is undissolved, most of it should be and so the concentration would likely be very close to what is intended. Keep us updated!

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    • StayThick
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2012
      • 624

      #17
      I reduced my Propecia intake to 0.5 mg after 8 months on the recommended 1 mg dose and it did absolutely NOTHING in reducing the side effects.

      You hear many stories and claims from people who experience sides from Propecia, which is why I was extremely hesitant to begin with. But with nothing but hair falling out I said...hey maybe I won't be that 2% or whatever Merck claims to get sides.

      That being said after 11 months to a year on Propecia, it was by the far the worst thing I have EVER done. I can say without hesitation it made my dong weak, cause extreme body fat around the waist and belly area (I work out 5 days a week and was chiseled prior) GYNO, brain fog and stuttering, watery semen, and fatigue all the time.

      I combatted the weak dong with other products, but I still lost the morning erections..and at 26..I knew what I was doing was not right. I read the forums and decided to stick it out hoping sides would subside in time, more importantly after I reduced the dosage. NOPE! What made me ultimately quit was one the GYNO. I work out, and when I saw my masculine chest start turning into minor breasts...well that was the turning point for me. Lastly, and the most important reason I cut the dose then quit after a 1 year was..it did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for my hair.

      Not saying it doesn't for others, many swear by it and I respect that..but it literally did nothing for my hair, yet ironically, just caused more problems in other areas.

      Long rant short...it's been 5 months and most of the sides are subsiding..so I'm extremely grateful...the belly fat is the hardest right not to rid myself of..but I know I can get my 6 pack back. My dong is getting to full strength and morning woodies are back in the picture...but GUYS it takes time to adjust..that's if you're lucky. MY 2 cents...AINT WORTH IT!

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      • Dan26
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 1270

        #18
        I am working on putting together a guide fully explaining fin, optimal dosing etc,. I will back everything up with facts. Unfortunately those studies disappeared. I tried contacting those university of Pennsylvanian bozo's, no response.

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        • thechamp
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 1770

          #19
          Estrogen blocker

          Have you guys tried a bodybuilding estrogen blocker against gyno and weight gain on propecia

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          • StayThick
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2012
            • 624

            #20
            No...but CHAMP listen to what you just asked..why take FIN...to take another product to combat the original product's side in the first place? With that logic, you might as well ask that Doc of yours to prescribe Viagra, to combat the weak dong, Adderrall to combat the brain fog and cognitive impairment it will cause..then take products to combat the ones I just mentioned that might give sides....

            My point is it's a never ending cycle that will destroy your body. My recommendation..ask people you know or find out more information about FIN. I did all my research prior and rolled the dice..I figured nothing can be permanent. Well I was WRONG...in time I think I'll be fine..but dude if you try it...try it..but DEAL with the consequences as I have..

            All for hair at that..ironically I haven't lost any more hair since quitting and possibly have regrown...the purpose of FIN didn't even perform what it was intended too..that's what aggravates me the most. I'd still quit, but I would shrug my shoulders if my hairline filled in and if I experienced overall thickening..NOT THE CASE.

            It's rolling the dice bro, but do your research.

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            • thechamp
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 1770

              #21


              My dong is ok so I'm gonna roll the dice **** it

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              • yeahyeahyeah
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 1818

                #22
                Originally posted by StayThick
                No...but CHAMP listen to what you just asked..why take FIN...to take another product to combat the original product's side in the first place? With that logic, you might as well ask that Doc of yours to prescribe Viagra, to combat the weak dong, Adderrall to combat the brain fog and cognitive impairment it will cause..then take products to combat the ones I just mentioned that might give sides....

                My point is it's a never ending cycle that will destroy your body. My recommendation..ask people you know or find out more information about FIN. I did all my research prior and rolled the dice..I figured nothing can be permanent. Well I was WRONG...in time I think I'll be fine..but dude if you try it...try it..but DEAL with the consequences as I have..

                All for hair at that..ironically I haven't lost any more hair since quitting and possibly have regrown...the purpose of FIN didn't even perform what it was intended too..that's what aggravates me the most. I'd still quit, but I would shrug my shoulders if my hairline filled in and if I experienced overall thickening..NOT THE CASE.

                It's rolling the dice bro, but do your research.
                How have you regrown hair? What are you using?

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                • StayThick
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 624

                  #23
                  After I quit Propecia I stuck with the Rogaine foam 2x a day. I used that in combination with FIN as well. The foam causes slight darkness under my eyes and water retention in the face...but that goes away if I don't apply as much..I can deal with that personally, as it's not THAT noticable.

                  But to answer your question specifically..at the moment I take foam 2x a day, Regenepure Shampoo DR and NT 6 days a week.

                  The foam has literally kept my hair intact and slightly thickened the mid to back of my scalp.

                  However, I just added EMU oil this week and Vichy NEOGENIC to see if I can get additional regrowth.

                  Some of you guys that have these chemical labs in your houses and mix all these products together are absolutely nuts. Being bald SUCKS, it's on my mind every where I go and all the time, but to go to that extreme mixing topical ****tails is crazy to me.

                  Fortunately I have no "bald" spots yet..just a 27 year old with a receding hairline. FOAM has been the only product that I have used consistently that has maintained what I had with slight regrowth.

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                  • StayThick
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 624

                    #24
                    Originally posted by thechamp
                    My dong is ok so I'm gonna roll the dice **** it
                    So was mine before I started...check back with me in as little as 3 months and let me know how that partner of yours below the waist is performing..

                    I already know what the response will be, you heard it here first..."I told you so."

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                    • thechamp
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 1770

                      #25
                      Lol

                      I took propecia and after I stopped had massive anixety about sex getting it up got on anxiety meds and was all good anxiety killed my libedo

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                      • yeahyeahyeah
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1818

                        #26
                        Originally posted by StayThick
                        No...but CHAMP listen to what you just asked..why take FIN...to take another product to combat the original product's side in the first place? With that logic, you might as well ask that Doc of yours to prescribe Viagra, to combat the weak dong, Adderrall to combat the brain fog and cognitive impairment it will cause..then take products to combat the ones I just mentioned that might give sides....

                        My point is it's a never ending cycle that will destroy your body. My recommendation..ask people you know or find out more information about FIN. I did all my research prior and rolled the dice..I figured nothing can be permanent. Well I was WRONG...in time I think I'll be fine..but dude if you try it...try it..but DEAL with the consequences as I have..

                        All for hair at that..ironically I haven't lost any more hair since quitting and possibly have regrown...the purpose of FIN didn't even perform what it was intended too..that's what aggravates me the most. I'd still quit, but I would shrug my shoulders if my hairline filled in and if I experienced overall thickening..NOT THE CASE.

                        It's rolling the dice bro, but do your research.
                        I dont get why HT doctors prescribe this shit if it so bad.

                        Really retarded.

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                        • StayThick
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 624

                          #27
                          Great question. I believe it's because there is nothing else "FDA" proven to maintain or help hair regrow besides the Big 2. Doc's are really big on prescribing these type of drugs.

                          My original DERM didn't mention any of the possible sides and when I brought it up, he looked at me as if I was an alien and stated he had "1" client that mentioned erectile dysfunction. I knew more about Propecia and the possible sides then a certified doctor..again, this is why I rolled the dice.

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                          • yeahyeahyeah
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 1818

                            #28
                            Originally posted by StayThick
                            Great question. I believe it's because there is nothing else "FDA" proven to maintain or help hair regrow besides the Big 2. Doc's are really big on prescribing these type of drugs.

                            My original DERM didn't mention any of the possible sides and when I brought it up, he looked at me as if I was an alien and stated he had "1" client that mentioned erectile dysfunction. I knew more about Propecia and the possible sides then a certified doctor..again, this is why I rolled the dice.
                            So what happens if you get a HT, than get sides?

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                            • CurlyBird
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 105

                              #29
                              Originally posted by StayThick
                              No...but CHAMP listen to what you just asked..why take FIN...to take another product to combat the original product's side in the first place? With that logic, you might as well ask that Doc of yours to prescribe Viagra, to combat the weak dong, Adderrall to combat the brain fog and cognitive impairment it will cause..then take products to combat the ones I just mentioned that might give sides....

                              My point is it's a never ending cycle that will destroy your body. My recommendation..ask people you know or find out more information about FIN. I did all my research prior and rolled the dice..I figured nothing can be permanent. Well I was WRONG...in time I think I'll be fine..but dude if you try it...try it..but DEAL with the consequences as I have..

                              All for hair at that..ironically I haven't lost any more hair since quitting and possibly have regrown...the purpose of FIN didn't even perform what it was intended too..that's what aggravates me the most. I'd still quit, but I would shrug my shoulders if my hairline filled in and if I experienced overall thickening..NOT THE CASE.

                              It's rolling the dice bro, but do your research.
                              Taking an estrogen blocker rarely has side effects for men as I understand it. The reason gyno and other side effects occur is due to the fact that estradiol and DHT counteract each other. So not only do you decrease DHT's antagonism of estradiol by taking finasteride, but because you're lowering DHT by inhibiting the reduction of testosterone to DHT, you wind up with more testosterone. Because estradiol is made from testosterone the problem is compounded further.

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                              • StayThick
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 624

                                #30
                                Originally posted by CurlyBird
                                Taking an estrogen blocker rarely has side effects for men as I understand it. The reason gyno and other side effects occur is due to the fact that estradiol and DHT counteract each other. So not only do you decrease DHT's antagonism of estradiol by taking finasteride, but because you're lowering DHT by inhibiting the reduction of testosterone to DHT, you wind up with more testosterone. Because estradiol is made from testosterone the problem is compounded further.
                                Curly that's not the point though, the fact is, why take an estrogen blocker to prevent sides from Fin? At that rate he will seek a solution or something to take for the other sides FIN will cause because believe you me, it is not limited to one.

                                An estrogen blocker won't solve his problems...

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