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So sorry. I've been away from the forums as I have accepted hair loss and have been doing great. I'm bummed propecia is really the only thing out there that seems to work for people. I tried it, my balls ached and general numbness- I got scared early and quit forever. I have no sides. I feel like I have really good testosterone levels- work out like a beast, no problems libido or function. I have the Jason Statham thing going. I'd rather have hair- but am fine with how I look. My health is #1 and hair is a distant second.