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There's no conspiracy here, the results were shit and that's that. Obviously the people funding ARI felt the results of Phase II didnt justify a Phase III.
DP cells wont work, I dont even know if DSC cells (Replicels technique) will work either, as their phase I results were hardly amazing.
Everything now rests on Replicels Phase II results which are a year away and whatever Histogen can pull out. I think we're a long long way off a cure guys.
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Would it not be possible to see a combination of Aderans and Replicel now? One procedure following the other? That could give some interesting results.... suppose Replicel or Shiseido decided to buy them out?
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Originally Posted by Pentarou
The point is that ARI had major serious financial backing that NONE of the competitors, certainly not Replicel, have or had. Big Pharma doesn't want us to have a 'cure'.
Hmm...not sure I buy all those conspiracy theories. Why would Aderans invest so much money into something to only then stop it because it threatens their wig and transplant interests. Makes no sense
They probably just discontinued it because they don't feel it's worth it financially to continue
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Originally Posted by hellouser
Would it not be possible to see a combination of Aderans and Replicel now? One procedure following the other? That could give some interesting results.... suppose Replicel or Shiseido decided to buy them out?
No. ARI's solution was more comprehensive than Replicel. No benefit to combining them.
Replicel = DSC cells
ARI = DP and HF bulge cells. TWO cell types create crosstalk.
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Originally Posted by KO1
No. ARI's solution was more comprehensive than Replicel. No benefit to combining them.
Replicel = DSC cells
ARI = DP and HF bulge cells. TWO cell types create crosstalk.
I think Nigam is ahead of Replicel btw. He is doing 3D DP culture, and using bulge cells. Nobody has done that to my knowledge...
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Originally Posted by Pentarou
The point is that ARI had major serious financial backing that NONE of the competitors, certainly not Replicel, have or had. Big Pharma doesn't want us to have a 'cure'.
Fin & minox are commercial failures so I do not see the motivation to kill off new treatments that might actually make good money
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hopefully replicel and histogen release their products even if they aren't a "cure"....
I just hope histogen gets the funding and can start phase IIb already so we can get HSC on the market in 2015 for nonwestern countries....histogen, from what we have seen so far, blows propecia and minox out of the water..that's a good start....also it would be very interesting to see what HSC injections could do for donor regeneration in surgery..the growth factors could create great regeneration..kind of like what Dr. Nigam's is claiming to do with his donor doubling and growth factors right now..
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Histogen and Propecia are COMPLEMENTS. It does not blow propecia out of the water. I still don't understand how Histogen's hair is going to be DHT resistant, maybe somebody can explain it to me.
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Originally Posted by Pentarou
The point is that ARI had major serious financial backing that NONE of the competitors, certainly not Replicel, have or had. Big Pharma doesn't want us to have a 'cure'.
Why would big pharma not want us to have a cure? You are venturing into tin foil hat territory my friend
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Originally Posted by KO1
Histogen and Propecia are COMPLEMENTS. It does not blow propecia out of the water. I still don't understand how Histogen's hair is going to be DHT resistant, maybe somebody can explain it to me.
No I don't think they will be DHT resistant, you will probably need top ups.
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