Dr. Wesley has begun his 3rd 'Pilofocus' Phase Testing- I was finally involved!

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  • long4hair
    Member
    • Nov 2016
    • 76

    If Pilofocus is in phase 3 does that mean that trials are almost done?

    In medicines there are 3 phases but I don't know about procedures. Is Pilofocus in the final phase and should the data be sent to the FDA for review and possible approval this year? Or is phase 3 with Pilofocus going to be more years?

    If Pilofocus achieves quality donor regeneration but Wesley is still going to do more years of testing then Wesley's making a mistake because if Pilofocus achieves quality donor regeneration and Wesley can get it to market quickly he could own the market for awhile since Tsuji is going to be in the pipeline awhile. If Dr. Wesley can get a foothold in the market while Tsuji is still in the pipeline then Pilfocus could dominate the market long term because if Pilofocus builds a good reputation for achieving quality donor regeneration it could build a big following of customers. After all, why fly to Asia for Tsuji's hair germ implants if you can stay in USA and have unlimited donor supply (Pilofocus) right here in America?

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    • tedwuji
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2014
      • 478

      January

      Coming and going...

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      • allTheGoodNamesAreTaken
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2015
        • 342

        Originally posted by long4hair
        In medicines there are 3 phases but I don't know about procedures. Is Pilofocus in the final phase and should the data be sent to the FDA for review and possible approval this year? Or is phase 3 with Pilofocus going to be more years?
        Nah, pilofocus isn't phase 3 yet. It certainly won't be approved this year if it has to go through 3 trials like drugs do. It'll probably be out before that ****ing liar 'Artista' comes back with more of his bull**** though.

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        • long4hair
          Member
          • Nov 2016
          • 76

          Originally posted by allTheGoodNamesAreTaken
          Nah, pilofocus isn't phase 3 yet. It certainly won't be approved this year if it has to go through 3 trials like drugs do. It'll probably be out before that ****ing liar 'Artista' comes back with more of his bull**** though.

          Allthegoodnamesaretaken,Here below is a post by Artista that repeatedly states that Pilofocus is in phase 3.


          Dr. Wesley has begun his 3rd 'Pilofocus' Phase Testing- I was finally involved!
          Hello everyone!!

          My wife and I returned home yesterday from Dr. Wesley's medical clinic.
          I was a patient in his 3rd Pilofocus Phase Testing which took a few hours to complete on 11/12/15 and then we had a followup the next morning.
          (his second phase testing (with just a few patients) was more or less because he had to once again update his very important endoscopic tools and instrumentation)
          That was important.

          Now he is onto his 3rd phase testing and Im excited to have been one of his patients. finally.
          It did not bother me to wait this long.
          I understood what was needed before he could continue.
          I will add more to this later today,,it is every morning here in Illinois. I wanted to finally let all know about this.
          Im hoping for the best for ALL OF US. So is Dr. Wesley!!

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          • tedwuji
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2014
            • 478

            Originally posted by long4hair
            Allthegoodnamesaretaken,Here below is a post by Artista that repeatedly states that Pilofocus is in phase 3.


            Dr. Wesley has begun his 3rd 'Pilofocus' Phase Testing- I was finally involved!
            Hello everyone!!

            My wife and I returned home yesterday from Dr. Wesley's medical clinic.
            I was a patient in his 3rd Pilofocus Phase Testing which took a few hours to complete on 11/12/15 and then we had a followup the next morning.
            (his second phase testing (with just a few patients) was more or less because he had to once again update his very important endoscopic tools and instrumentation)
            That was important.

            Now he is onto his 3rd phase testing and Im excited to have been one of his patients. finally.
            It did not bother me to wait this long.
            I understood what was needed before he could continue.
            I will add more to this later today,,it is every morning here in Illinois. I wanted to finally let all know about this.
            Im hoping for the best for ALL OF US. So is Dr. Wesley!!
            Yeah it has been known for some time now that it is phase 3.

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            • long4hair
              Member
              • Nov 2016
              • 76

              Originally posted by tedwuji
              Yeah it has been known for some time now that it is phase 3.
              So if all goes well when should it hit the market?

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              • Breaking Bald
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 610

                Over halfway through Jan and no word, so tired of all the promises and lack of information and responses.

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                • allTheGoodNamesAreTaken
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2015
                  • 342

                  Originally posted by long4hair
                  Allthegoodnamesaretaken,Here below is a post by Artista that repeatedly states that Pilofocus is in phase 3.


                  Dr. Wesley has begun his 3rd 'Pilofocus' Phase Testing- I was finally involved!
                  Hello everyone!!

                  My wife and I returned home yesterday from Dr. Wesley's medical clinic.
                  I was a patient in his 3rd Pilofocus Phase Testing which took a few hours to complete on 11/12/15 and then we had a followup the next morning.
                  (his second phase testing (with just a few patients) was more or less because he had to once again update his very important endoscopic tools and instrumentation)
                  That was important.

                  Now he is onto his 3rd phase testing and Im excited to have been one of his patients. finally.
                  It did not bother me to wait this long.
                  I understood what was needed before he could continue.
                  I will add more to this later today,,it is every morning here in Illinois. I wanted to finally let all know about this.
                  Im hoping for the best for ALL OF US. So is Dr. Wesley!!
                  Ah, yes, he's calling that '3rd phase' testing, but according to wiki's page on clinical trials (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phases...arch#Phase_III) an official 'phase 3' clinical trial sounds like a much larger and more expensive thing than what Wesley is doing. I'm under the impression it's so far just been him tinkering with this device on his own and out of his own pocket. I don't know if something like pilofocus has to go through the standard 3 trial phases before approval for the public though.

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                  • tedwuji
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 478

                    Originally posted by allTheGoodNamesAreTaken
                    Ah, yes, he's calling that '3rd phase' testing, but according to wiki's page on clinical trials (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phases...arch#Phase_III) an official 'phase 3' clinical trial sounds like a much larger and more expensive thing than what Wesley is doing. I'm under the impression it's so far just been him tinkering with this device on his own and out of his own pocket. I don't know if something like pilofocus has to go through the standard 3 trial phases before approval for the public though.
                    Probably true.

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                    • tedwuji
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 478

                      Originally posted by long4hair
                      So if all goes well when should it hit the market?
                      Thats the whole point. We dont know when or if it will be available.

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                      • long4hair
                        Member
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 76

                        Originally posted by tedwuji
                        Thats the whole point. We dont know when or if it will be available.

                        Wikipedia is not a good source in this matter because it says that treatments have to go through two phase 3 studies and that's bs. Hair loss treatments have not been going through two phase 3 studies. They've been going through one phase 3 study. That aside, perhaps largestudies with many people are only required in the case of pills or elixirs because it would not be as expensive to have large phase 3 studies for pills and elixirs. But in the case of procedures the FDA might require smaller studies because procedures can be very expensive.

                        I do not trust Wikipedia in this matter.

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                        • long4hair
                          Member
                          • Nov 2016
                          • 76

                          Regarding FDA trials for new tools and procedures.

                          How are new surgical procedures and tools evaluated before they're OK'ed for use on the public?


                          1. In the above linked information here is a key quote regarding new surgical tools:


                          "Compared to drugs, however, devices generally have much, much smaller sample sizes because the target patient population is usually not as large, and gathering more patients is not realistic."


                          2. In the above linked information here is a key quote about new procedures:

                          "As far as surgical procedures go, FDA wipes it's hands clean and considers these procedures "practice of medicine." This is a good thing as far as I'm concerned, because oftentimes doctors and surgeons don't have to be worried about liability when they're doing something for a patient that they consider to be best practice."


                          I'm not sure if the above information comes from people who know what they're talking about or if it's just postings by some JowBlows. The information in the above link could be accurate but I'm not sure about that.

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                          • long4hair
                            Member
                            • Nov 2016
                            • 76

                            Below is more info I just found about clinical trials for new tools and procedures. And this information looks reliable.

                            In its extensively revised and updated Second Edition, this book provides a solid foundation for readers interested in clinical research. Discussion encompasses genetic, pharmacoepidemiologic and implementation research.All chapters have been updated with new information and many new tables have been added to elucidate key points. The book now offers discussion on how to handle missing data when analyzing results, and coverage of Adaptive Designs and Effectiveness Designs and new sections on Comparative Effectiveness Research and Pragmatic Trials. Chapter 6 includes new material on Phase 0 Trials, expanded coverage of Futility Trials, a discussion of Medical Device approval, Off Label Drug use and the role of the FDA in regulating advertising. Additional new information includes the role of pill color and shape in association with the placebo effect and an examination of issues surrounding minority recruitment. The final chapter offers a new section on manuscript preparation along with a discussion of various guidelines being adopted by journals: CONSORT, STROBE, PRISMA, MOOSE and others; and coverage of Conflicts of Interest, Authorship, Coercive Citation, and Disclosures in Industry-Related Associations.Building on the strengths of its predecessor in its comprehensive approach and authoritative advice, the new edition offers more of what has made this book a popular, trusted resource for students and working researchers alike.




                            The above link also indicates that the FDA does not actually regulate new procedures although it does regulate new tools.

                            Based on the information I've read tonight, which I've provided links to for everyone else here, I believe that this trial that Dr. Wesley is doing now is probably the last trial, or at most there could be one more. I think Dr. Wesley would make a mistake if he does more trials than needed because if he can produce quality donor regeneration he should get his new treatment to market asap so he can seize control of the market and allow his new treatment to build a reputation for quality donor regeneration while other researchers are still stuck in clinical trials.

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                            • tedwuji
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2014
                              • 478

                              Originally posted by Artista
                              HELLO EVERYONE and I TRULY do APOLOGIZE to everyone for not responding here or trying to HELP others (especially the very young) on this great forum!!
                              I have been so very BUSY work-wise, family-wise since the beginning of November and I did have some bad health ISSUES too.
                              My health is back to NORMAL,of course, BUT i am STILL truly too busy work-wise for now.
                              Things will get better hopefully soon and i can be back on BTT all the time as I use to be.

                              I still do have everybody's questions and responses on my email BUT I will respond back on all of those in time! I promise that!!

                              To let everybody know,
                              My wife and I did take photographs of my scalps phase tested donor area that had been used specifically by Dr. Wesley back in November 2015.
                              I had sent those photos to Dr. Wesley's Pilofocus clinic so that he could see how it is looking.
                              My wife and I were both amazed at how it has been looking!!
                              Dr. Wesley called me last week on Tuesday (while I was at work of course).
                              He was very glad to see how it was looking but of course, I need to get back to his clinic next month (January 2017) so that he can
                              medically VERIFY this phase tested area of my scalp.
                              Hopefully it turns out to be hair regeneration!!
                              Dr. Wesley would NEVER assume anything via any photographs...of course.
                              He truly is an honest and sincere doctor!!

                              I will need to get ready for work now...I will send those photos here so that all of you can see it.
                              Cheers to ALL!!!
                              Where are the photos?

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                              • allTheGoodNamesAreTaken
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2015
                                • 342

                                There will be no photos, there is no regeneration, I'll be surprised if this arsehole has even been within a thousand miles of Wesley's clinic.

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