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  • FearTheLoss
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    • Dec 2012
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    GLA for hair loss

    2020 posted that GLA helps maintain hair loss.. What is GLA and where can I get it?
  • 2020
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    • Jan 2012
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    #2
    Originally posted by FearTheLoss
    2020 posted that GLA helps maintain hair loss.. What is GLA and where can I get it?


    It's still a "DHT blocker" but it's supposed to be dose dependent plus it should work in other pathways thus it should be much more safe.


    Study proving that it does block DHT:
    Androgen action in many organs, such as prostate and skin, is dependent on the conversion of testosterone by 5 alpha-reductase to 5 alpha-dihydrotestosterone. 5 alpha-Dihydrotestosterone then binds to the androgen receptor to regulate specific gene expression. Inhibitors of 5 alpha-reductase are use …


    It also supresses inflammation COX-2, LOX (PGD2?) and increases PGE1(good thing, another study)
    Emerging reports now implicate alterations of arachidonic acid (AA) metabolism with prostate carcinogenesis. To test this hypothesis, androgen-primed benign hyperplastic (BHC) and malignant tumorigenic (MTC) cells derived from the Lobund-Wistar rat model of autochthonous prostate adenocarcinoma were …




    Treatment of male pattern baldness and of unwanted hair growth.
    Method of modulating androgen action in men or women to prevent or treat male pattern baldness and/or reduce or stop unwanted hair growth in areas of the body excluding the scalp, by administering top


    In a test of the effectiveness of the invention, four middle-aged males with rapidly progressing baldness were treated orally with either 6g of evening primrose oil or 6g of a mixture of evening primrose oil and concentrated fish oil (20&#37 per day. The primrose oil provided approximately 90mg of 18:3n-6 (gamma-linolenic acid, GLA) per gram and the fish oil 180mg of 20:5n-3 (eicosapentaenoic acid, EPA) and 120mg of docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) per gram. After delays of 4 to 8 weeks, all four individuals reported unequivocal hair growth, with extension of hair growth to previously bald areas of the scalp, and a strengthening of growth in those areas where hair was present but thinning. Topical application of the unsaturated fatty acids provides better results by increasing the concentration of the fatty acid at the hair follicle level.

    In further tests, one male applied pure evening primrose oil twice per day to half the beard area. After about two weeks, the rate of beard growth on the side of the face to which the oil had been applied was definitely less than on the other side. Similarly, one female shaved both legs and then applied evening primrose oil twice daily to one leg only. After a period of 6-8 weeks it could be seen that the rate of hair growth was substantially less on the leg to which the oil had been applied.

    These preliminary tests indicate that both oral and topical application of unsaturated fatty acids is able to modulate the actions of androgens on the hair follicles, stimulating hair growth on the scalp and reducing it on other areas of the body.
    I personally haven't tried it yet but will so soon...

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    • FearTheLoss
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 1589

      #3
      Originally posted by 2020
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-Linolenic_acid

      It's still a "DHT blocker" but it's supposed to be dose dependent plus it should work in other pathways thus it should be much more safe.


      Study proving that it does block DHT:
      Androgen action in many organs, such as prostate and skin, is dependent on the conversion of testosterone by 5 alpha-reductase to 5 alpha-dihydrotestosterone. 5 alpha-Dihydrotestosterone then binds to the androgen receptor to regulate specific gene expression. Inhibitors of 5 alpha-reductase are use …


      It also supresses inflammation COX-2, LOX (PGD2?) and increases PGE1(good thing, another study)
      Emerging reports now implicate alterations of arachidonic acid (AA) metabolism with prostate carcinogenesis. To test this hypothesis, androgen-primed benign hyperplastic (BHC) and malignant tumorigenic (MTC) cells derived from the Lobund-Wistar rat model of autochthonous prostate adenocarcinoma were …



      Treatment of male pattern baldness and of unwanted hair growth.
      Method of modulating androgen action in men or women to prevent or treat male pattern baldness and/or reduce or stop unwanted hair growth in areas of the body excluding the scalp, by administering top




      I personally haven't tried it yet but will so soon...

      Seems legit...how would I get this? and do you think this is going to be commercialized?

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      • 2020
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        • Jan 2012
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        #4
        Originally posted by FearTheLoss
        Seems legit...how would I get this? and do you think this is going to be commercialized?
        ??? GLA is a simple fatty acid available virtually everywhere. This isn't anything new.


        > 16,000 results

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        • FearTheLoss
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 1589

          #5
          Originally posted by 2020
          ??? GLA is a simple fatty acid available virtually everywhere. This isn't anything new.


          > 16,000 results
          and you are saying this works in pill form? just take one a day? the studies say it's been tried as a topical but how would you make this a topical?

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          • 2020
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            • Jan 2012
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            #6
            Originally posted by FearTheLoss
            and you are saying this works in pill form? just take one a day? the studies say it's been tried as a topical but how would you make this a topical?
            ...

            "...four middle-aged males with rapidly progressing baldness were treated orally..."

            yes, why wouldn't it work? It just says that it might provide better results topically. Finasteride works orally too and likely would provide some results topically as well...

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            • FearTheLoss
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 1589

              #7
              Originally posted by 2020
              ...

              "...four middle-aged males with rapidly progressing baldness were treated orally..."

              yes, why wouldn't it work? It just says that it might provide better results topically. Finasteride works orally too and likely would provide some results topically as well...
              Alright I think I may try this? Are you going to start? just wondering why no one else has talked about this..

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              • FearTheLoss
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                • Dec 2012
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                #8
                I just did some reading on this and you need GLA in free form, its pure form to work as a 5a-inhibitor...so these pills in the link won't work, if what I read was correct.

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                • 2020
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                  • Jan 2012
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                  #9
                  Everything works in any form there is no such thing and this has been discussed plenty. I started this thread last year on ***:
                  http://www.****************/interact...ults-from-1988!

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                  • FearTheLoss
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                    • Dec 2012
                    • 1589

                    #10
                    Androgen action in many organs, such as prostate and skin, is dependent on the conversion of testosterone by 5 alpha-reductase to 5 alpha-dihydrotestosterone. 5 alpha-Dihydrotestosterone then binds to the androgen receptor to regulate specific gene expression. Inhibitors of 5 alpha-reductase are useful for the selective treatment of prostatic cancer, benign prostate hyperplasia, acne, baldness and female hirsutism, without affecting spermatogenesis, sexual behavior and smooth muscle growth, that do not require the conversion of testosterone to 5 alpha-dihydrotestosterone. Certain unsaturated fatty acids, such as gamma-linolenic acid, are potent 5 alpha-reductase inhibitors, suggesting a linkage between unsaturated fatty acids and androgen action. Mutations in androgen receptor genes are responsible for many cases of androgen-insensitivity. In some prostate cancer cells, some antiandrogens may act like androgens in stimulating the proliferation of the cancer cells because these antiandrogens can bind to a mutated androgen receptor and transactivate target genes. Prostate cancers are usually androgen-dependent initially but can lose dependency and responsiveness. Tumor cells which are resistant to endocrine therapy ultimately proliferate. Androgen-independent or androgen-repressive cells can arise from androgen-sensitive prostate cancer cells by changes in specific gene expression over time in a clonal isolate. This change in androgen responsiveness was accompanied by a change in androgen receptor expression and transcriptional activity as well as expression of some oncogenes.

                    Studies Gamma Linolenic Acid, Alpha Linolenic Acid, and Linoleic Acid
                    In the following studies, Gamma Linolenic Acid (GLA), Alpha Linolenic Acid (ALA), and Linoleic Acid were shown to be the most potent known inhibitors of type 1 and 2 forms of 5-alpha reductase and highly effective in decreasing the levels of dihydrotestosterone (DHT). More importantly this is accomplished without affecting any systemic effects. The study further suggests that these fatty acids can be useful in the treatment of disorders related to dihydrotestosterone including male pattern baldness, acne, and excessive female body hair (hirsuitism).


                    So we need Borage oil+ Omega 3 fish oil with a lot of EPA DHA along with Sesamin oil internally= bad ass hairloss treatment.

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                    • FearTheLoss
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 1589

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                      Androgen action in many organs, such as prostate and skin, is dependent on the conversion of testosterone by 5 alpha-reductase to 5 alpha-dihydrotestosterone. 5 alpha-Dihydrotestosterone then binds to the androgen receptor to regulate specific gene expression. Inhibitors of 5 alpha-reductase are useful for the selective treatment of prostatic cancer, benign prostate hyperplasia, acne, baldness and female hirsutism, without affecting spermatogenesis, sexual behavior and smooth muscle growth, that do not require the conversion of testosterone to 5 alpha-dihydrotestosterone. Certain unsaturated fatty acids, such as gamma-linolenic acid, are potent 5 alpha-reductase inhibitors, suggesting a linkage between unsaturated fatty acids and androgen action. Mutations in androgen receptor genes are responsible for many cases of androgen-insensitivity. In some prostate cancer cells, some antiandrogens may act like androgens in stimulating the proliferation of the cancer cells because these antiandrogens can bind to a mutated androgen receptor and transactivate target genes. Prostate cancers are usually androgen-dependent initially but can lose dependency and responsiveness. Tumor cells which are resistant to endocrine therapy ultimately proliferate. Androgen-independent or androgen-repressive cells can arise from androgen-sensitive prostate cancer cells by changes in specific gene expression over time in a clonal isolate. This change in androgen responsiveness was accompanied by a change in androgen receptor expression and transcriptional activity as well as expression of some oncogenes.

                      Studies Gamma Linolenic Acid, Alpha Linolenic Acid, and Linoleic Acid
                      In the following studies, Gamma Linolenic Acid (GLA), Alpha Linolenic Acid (ALA), and Linoleic Acid were shown to be the most potent known inhibitors of type 1 and 2 forms of 5-alpha reductase and highly effective in decreasing the levels of dihydrotestosterone (DHT). More importantly this is accomplished without affecting any systemic effects. The study further suggests that these fatty acids can be useful in the treatment of disorders related to dihydrotestosterone including male pattern baldness, acne, and excessive female body hair (hirsuitism).


                      So we need Borage oil+ Omega 3 fish oil with a lot of EPA DHA along with Sesamin oil internally= bad ass hairloss treatment.
                      correction to my last post....borage oil doesn't work...it still has to be free form? Bryan says it doesn't work when present with other natural oils

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                      • FearTheLoss
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 1589

                        #12
                        WE NEED GLA as a free fatty acid from a chemical company...I would be willing to go in on this for a group buy

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                        • 2020
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                          • Jan 2012
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                          WE NEED GLA as a free fatty acid from a chemical company...I would be willing to go in on this for a group buy
                          ... they used evening primrose oil in their patent study. Here this is exactly the same:


                          500mg per pill and in the study they used 6 grams so you would have to take 12 pills a day

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                          • FearTheLoss
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2012
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by 2020
                            ... they used evening primrose oil in their patent study. Here this is exactly the same:


                            500mg per pill and in the study they used 6 grams so you would have to take 12 pills a day
                            alright, when are you going to start?

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                            • 2020
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                              • Jan 2012
                              • 1527

                              #15
                              Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                              alright, when are you going to start?
                              Starting next week perhaps

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