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  • UK Boy
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 244

    Sm04554

    There is record of a clinial trial being carried out on the Australia New Zealand Clinical Trials Registry. It is for a topical solution containing a small molecule currently named SM04554. The trial states that this topical may activate the wnt pathway. Trial was only short and started Sept 2013. I wonder what the outcomes were. There is a contact for public enquiries if someone has time to send them an email - it's on the trial details.
  • hellouser
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 4423

    #2
    Link to source?

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    • bigentries
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 465

      #3
      It's still recruiting

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      • deuce
        Senior Member
        • May 2013
        • 210

        #4
        Sounds cool, but is Australia's drug approval process as messed up as the US?. I do not know about yall but I cannot wait much longer for a safe topical AA. Hassan and Wong talked about a topical AA that is suppose to be out this year, but cannot remember the name to it. C'mon man how can you say something like that and get our hopes up. I do not think it is CB because they heard it at a hair loss convention and Cosmo did not deliver any addresses that said it would be out this year.

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        • bigentries
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 465

          #5
          Originally posted by deuce
          Sounds cool, but is Australia's drug approval process as messed up as the US?. I do not know about yall but I cannot wait much longer for a safe topical AA. Hassan and Wong talked about a topical AA that is suppose to be out this year, but cannot remember the name to it. C'mon man how can you say something like that and get our hopes up. I do not think it is CB because they heard it at a hair loss convention and Cosmo did not deliver any addresses that said it would be out this year.
          From the looks of that page, there is recruiting happening in the US at this moment

          The Hasson & Wong things ended up being a misunderstanding

          And for God's sake, stop with the FDA bitching, save it for a time when a drugs advances to phase III with decent results

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          • deuce
            Senior Member
            • May 2013
            • 210

            #6
            Wow so this did not go through any trials yet? Would have been good news about ten years ago, but unfortunately most of us will be bald by the time this comes out. I was not bitching about the FDA just saying it is messed up. As far as H and W. How do you know it was a misunderstanding. Did they say that? Where and when?

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            • bigentries
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 465

              #7
              Originally posted by deuce
              Wow so this did not go through any trials yet? Would have been good news about ten years ago, but unfortunately most of us will be bald by the time this comes out. I was not bitching about the FDA just saying it is messed up. As far as H and W. How do you know it was a misunderstanding. Did they say that? Where and when?
              Hey guys, I'm new to the forum, just recently put up my hair loss story in the introduce yourself section. I just wanted to pass along some info that I received today. I had an appointment with Dr. Hasson from Hasson and Wang Hair Transplants in Vancouver, BC today. I recently started losing my hair about a year and a half


              Originally posted by Jotronic
              I asked Dr. Hasson about this a few days ago. He said that there was nothing more to share than what has already been stated. He doesn't know the name of this AA and he heard about it at the ISHRS conference back in October.
              Seems like the general consensus is that it was a misunderstanding.

              As far as the clinical trial goes, the status says that it is recruiting, but they expected to end enrollment by November last year, so maybe they haven't updated

              My bad, it doesn't seem to be any recruitment in the US at the moment, I misinterpreted the "Page 8" and "recruitment outside australia" sections. But it does lists a company in America as the primary sponsor

              Still, this stuff seems pretty interesting, the primary sponsor seems connected with WNT research

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              • lilpauly
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 1084

                #8
                Originally posted by bigentries
                From the looks of that page, there is recruiting happening in the US at this moment

                The Hasson & Wong things ended up being a misunderstanding

                And for God's sake, stop with the FDA bitching, save it for a time when a drugs advances to phase III with decent results
                I agree phase 111 is crucial , most go dead after phase 1 .

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                • hellouser
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 4423

                  #9
                  Originally posted by lilpauly
                  I agree phase 111 is crucial , most go dead after phase 1 .
                  Many go dead after Phase I too *cough*Aderans,RU58841,neosh,etc*cough*

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                  • Jens1986
                    Junior Member
                    • May 2013
                    • 24

                    #10
                    Originally posted by hellouser
                    Many go dead after Phase I too *cough*Aderans,RU58841,neosh,etc*cough*
                    PSK 3841, a nonsteroidal
                    antiandrogen, has completed phase IIa
                    trials for the treatment of androgenetic
                    alopecia and a clinical proof-of-concept
                    study to reduce sebum flow and
                    secretion in patients with acne. Six
                    months of treatment with PSK 3481
                    demonstrated equivalent or better net
                    hair growth compared with finasteride.

                    Source: «Drug News» Vol. 13, No. 13 March 2004

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                    • Desmond84
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 987

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jens1986
                      PSK 3841, a nonsteroidal
                      antiandrogen, has completed phase IIa
                      trials for the treatment of androgenetic
                      alopecia and a clinical proof-of-concept
                      study to reduce sebum flow and
                      secretion in patients with acne. Six
                      months of treatment with PSK 3481
                      demonstrated equivalent or better net
                      hair growth compared with finasteride.

                      Source: «Drug News» Vol. 13, No. 13 March 2004
                      Wow 2004! How depressing :'( All our problems would have been solved if this came out...sigh

                      Let's just hope we don't add Histogen to this list. They've now been silent for 15 months after completion of Phase 2a

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                      • huawei
                        Member
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 85

                        #12
                        Interesting, its a shame I'm only a nw 2/3 otherwise I would apply as I am close to the area.

                        Isn't Desmond from Australia or the oceanic region? Or was another forum regular

                        Edit: Here's another one...RK-023. There is not much info on it but its currently being trialed on eye lashes with the intended effect to turn velus hairs into something more so it seems.

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                        • Atum
                          Member
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 93

                          #13
                          Originally posted by huawei
                          Interesting, its a shame I'm only a nw 2/3 otherwise I would apply as I am close to the area.

                          Isn't Desmond from Australia or the oceanic region? Or was another forum regular

                          Edit: Here's another one...RK-023. There is not much info on it but its currently being trialed on eye lashes with the intended effect to turn velus hairs into something more so it seems.
                          Seems phase IIa was complete in januari 2011:
                          The completion of the Phase 2a clinical study of RK-023 for the treatment of androgenetic alopecia has been announced in January 24th, 2011.


                          Although it seems they made a new formula of Rk-023, as they started Phase I in February 2011.

                          Don't know why, but it's automatically changed to dutch.

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                          • Jens1986
                            Junior Member
                            • May 2013
                            • 24

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Desmond84
                            Wow 2004! How depressing :'( All our problems would have been solved if this came out...sigh

                            Let's just hope we don't add Histogen to this list. They've now been silent for 15 months after completion of Phase 2a

                            PSK 3841 = RU 58841, got renamed after Roussel Uclaf sold it to ProStrakan.

                            It was just to show hellouser that RU made it past Phase I

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                            • hellouser
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 4423

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jens1986
                              PSK 3841 = RU 58841, got renamed after Roussel Uclaf sold it to ProStrakan.

                              It was just to show hellouser that RU made it past Phase I
                              It still got shelved in the end. Nothing to be happy about.

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