Replicel results released on yahoo

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  • Tracy C
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 3125

    #76
    Originally posted by jman91
    we don't need any more companies that just get your hopes up but never deliver
    Obviously, you don't get it. Go spread your negative poison somewhere else.

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    • UK_
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 2744

      #77
      Originally posted by jman91
      but come on the results were really bad, they tried to put some positive wording to spin it like a minor success but 12% is utterly useless let alone possibly bad enough going to end replicels funding. I am disappointed, but i'm not in denial. just wanted something so bad that you want see the facts is stupid.
      12%? More like 3%

      A total failure, I remember Intercytex achieving similar results in their first clinical trial, no doubt mid-Phase 2 Replicel will pull some bullshit about funding & drop out of the trials declaring the entire endeavour a failure.

      So that's DP, DSC cells all down the drain - looks like we're running out of options here. But if the body can create it, why cant man?

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      • UK_
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 2744

        #78
        Originally posted by Tracy C
        It's only a six month interim result! Pull your heads out people! Call a proctologist if you need to.

        It would be a tragedy if Replicel lost funding because so many people are too foolish to see what they have achieved. If that happens, I blame all of you who are too dead from the neck up to be able to see what was achieved. You are ruining it for everyone.
        I dont expect anything miraculous to happen in the coming 12 months - what - are the cells they injected just sitting in the scalp waiting to grow hair? I feel a bigger issue may be dosage - but 3% is an utter joke - so for 100 hairs per cm2 you'd need how many treatments? lol.

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        • BoSox
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 708

          #79
          I'm with you Tracy. Regardless of %, let's hear what the CEO has to say.

          If they are claiming positive results, let's let them explain themselves.

          Keeping the faith.

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          • gmonasco
            Inactive
            • Apr 2010
            • 883

            #80
            Originally posted by UK_
            what - are the cells they injected just sitting in the scalp waiting to grow hair?
            Since a normal catagen/telogen phase in established hair follicles typically lasts between 3-4 months, you might not see much (or any) growth from new/revived follicles within 6 months.

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            • jman91
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 238

              #81
              Originally posted by Tracy C
              Obviously, you don't get it. Go spread your negative poison somewhere else.
              to be fair, it's not just me that thinks this

              in my opinion to want something so bad that you can't see things objectively is unhealthy, what ever way you look at it, the results weren't that good.

              people like joe from staten island are too emotional and get upset when you say the ugly truth that we may never see a really effective treatment on the shelves. personally i think it would be better for people like if joe just never have had ANY hair to begin with. I would like to live in a world where there are really effective treatments to prevent/reverse hairloss as well, but i'm not so desperate for a cure that I stray past the point of logical and and go slightly crazy. Lets just face it, even tho replicel messed up, theres still histogen and Aderans...

              i dont think my posting will stop replicels funding

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              • gmonasco
                Inactive
                • Apr 2010
                • 883

                #82

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                • jman91
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 238

                  #83
                  Originally posted by gmonasco

                  constantly warning people about trolls in every thread is probably more of a troll then anything i say. Seriously there's plenty of people in this thread alone who agree with me and there's nothing wrong with admitting replicels results were bad if that's what you think last time i checked you're werent a mod gmonasco so go take your warning and shuv it where the sun doesnt shine, im sick of people being forced to be positive about everything cures...theres no shame in thinking that this isnt going to be a magic solution out in 2 yrs like some of the deusional people on here.

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                  • UK_
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 2744

                    #84
                    Originally posted by gmonasco
                    Since a normal catagen/telogen phase in established hair follicles typically lasts between 3-4 months, you might not see much (or any) growth from new/revived follicles within 6 months.
                    The results are the same as Intercytex - Intercytex also believed more hair would sprout up after 12 months - 18 months later they were selling the company. There's obviously no difference in culturing DP cells & DSC cells - but im willing to wait another 6 months to see if more hairs come out. I doubt it though.

                    Personally im very dissapointed with the results but time will tell if more hair grows, IMO the hair that grew will probably fall out and the thinning will continue.

                    Our only hope is Histogen - they'll have better Phase II results, they'll also have established the optimum dose range.

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                    • gmonasco
                      Inactive
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 883

                      #85
                      Originally posted by jman91
                      theres no shame in thinking that this isnt going to be a magic solution out in 2 yrs like some of the deusional people on here.
                      There is shame in publicly acting out like a spoiled 6-year-old about it, however. And even more shame in failing to recognize that's what you're doing.

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                      • jman91
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 238

                        #86
                        Originally posted by gmonasco
                        There is shame in publicly acting out like a spoiled 6-year-old about it, however. And even more shame in failing to recognize that's what you're doing.
                        i understand the benefits of seeing the positive before the negative.

                        i also realise when to draw the line and accept failing.

                        I have nothing against people like Tracey and she knows a lot more than i do about the research but making people believe that something will help them when it very unlikely according to the facts is just stupid and unfair as it just gets peoples hopes up, theres loads of other things we could be hoping for, lets just move on.

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                        • gmonasco
                          Inactive
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 883

                          #87
                          Originally posted by jman91
                          making people believe that something will help them when it very unlikely according to the facts is just stupid and unfair
                          Then it's a good thing that nobody here has done that.

                          Perhaps you should pay more attention to what people actually say rather than what you want to believe.

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                          • jman91
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 238

                            #88
                            Originally posted by gmonasco
                            Then it's a good thing that nobody here has done that.

                            Perhaps you should pay more attention to what people actually say rather than what you want to believe.
                            you could argue that saying the results where 'positve' is fair and accurate, but that's because it's a broad term and doesn't necessarily mean anything specific....saying positive really just means its better and that's just an opinion (and probably a delusional one)

                            the reason it's bad and should be spoken out against is that saying the results were positive misleads people as people, on the whole, will think in black and white and think if the results are positive then that means that they (replisell) are probably on their way to curing baldness....which they are most definitely not.....rogaine is more effective than this nothing treatment.

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                            • sausage
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 1064

                              #89
                              Just pointless arguments going on here.

                              This thread is DEAD now.

                              Replicel is useless.

                              Game over.

                              Goodbye.

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                              • gmonasco
                                Inactive
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 883

                                #90
                                Originally posted by jman91
                                the reason it's bad and should be spoken out against is that saying the results were positive misleads people as people, on the whole, will think in black and white and think if the results are positive then that means that they (replisell) are probably on their way to curing baldness
                                Adults are expected to have reading comprehension skills.

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