ACell, a Current Review of Applications in Hair Transplant Surgery

[Westonci]

And wherefrom should he get Wnt proteins? In a supermarket?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wnt_signaling_pathway

http://www.genwaybio.com/all_protein...77386bc323cca2

Scroll to the bottom to see the WNT proteins. I think doctors would have access to such material.

[HairRobinHood]

http://www.genwaybio.com/all_protein...77386bc323cca2

Scroll to the bottom to see the WNT proteins. I think doctors would have access to such material.

Ok. And which one should he choose and add? All availabel Wnt proteins? Or just a specific combination/mix thereof?

Concerning "Wnt proteins" - basically you're right; Dr. George Cotsarelis (Follica) brought this subject up in this field, followed by Dr. Gail Naughton (Histogen) and so on. BUT none of them ever discussed "adding" of any "Wnt proteins" to mammals for any therapeutical purpose. It's just all about "Wnt SIGNALING" and not about adding any "Wnt proteins". But feel free to read it yourself:

http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?...DISPLAY=CLAIMS
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EXCERPT
"79. A method for producing pigmented hair on a subject, said method comprising comprising (i) generating a hair follicle on said subject according to the method of any of claims 47-78; and (ii) suppressing an expression of a Wnt protein in said hair follicle.

80. The method of claim 79, wherein the step of suppressing an expression of a Wnt protein comprises inducing an expression of a Dkkl protein.
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So as you can see, they do not mention something of "adding" of any Wnt proteins. They just talk about "suppressing" an expression of a [specific) Wnt protein.

[HairRobinHood]

@Westonci – My previous post (yesterday) about the “Wnt” subject, was just a quick response out of my memory. I just read it again and checked what I wrote. But besides some grammar mistakes (I guess), everything I mentioned is basically – correct:

Nilofer Farjo, MBChB Manchester, England
Wnt signaling: a review
One of the current buzz words in the literature, in meetings, and on the Internet is “wint”; but, what exactly is wnt and how does it fit into our understanding of hair follicle physiology? And, more significantly, will it lead to a new generation of treatments for alopecia?
When we talk of “wint,” we are in fact referring to two different things: the wnt gene family and wnt proteins. Wnt genes are structurally similar genes (19 wnt genes in humans have been identified on different chromosomes) that produce signalling proteins also referred to as wnt. These signaling molecules regulate cell-to-cell interactions during embryogenesis and control normal physiological processes in adults; some of these wnt proteins are specific to certain cells and tissues.
Histogen Inc. has been conducting studies using the concepts of increasing wnt signaling to promote hair growth in clinical trials. Below I interview their founder and CEO, Dr. Gail Naughton, on these recently completed trials.

Source: Hair Transplant Forum International, Jul/Aug 2009, page 120

Dr. Gail Naughton (Histogen Inc) mentioned in this interview, that they “produce” specific types of Wnt proteins (e.g. Wnt 7a) in their own labs, as well as “other hair-regeneration-related proteins” (e.g. follistatin) under specific and controlled conditions. Thereby specific cell types (fibroblasts) INCREASE their production of specific Wnt proteins, and during the production of these Wnt proteins, the cells also “secret a variety of wound healing growth factors” (e.g. KGF, VEGF etc). All in all results in a special medium which they simply call “Hair Stimulating Complex” (HSC). That’s all – isn’t it?

Concerning “abnormalities in Wnt signaling” or formations of tumors/cancer, particularly related to Wnt 5a proteins, Dr. Gail Naugthon mentioned in this interview, that they have to adapt the growth conditions to down-regulate Wnt 5a proteins and to up-regulate Wnt 7a proteins and so on.

So I ask you once again: Which Wnt protein type should Dr. Jerry Cooley “add” to the mix of Acell/PRP, and finally, for what reason? Wnt 7a proteins? Down-regulated proteins or up-regulated proteins? How much should they be “up-regulated”? Is it possible that too much “up-regulated” Wnt 7a proteins “signal” other proteins in your body to be e.g. Wnt 5a proteins or to be any other (“risky”) protein type, simply with the intention “just for fun”?

How about just adding of the mentioned “growth factors” ?

[Jerry Cooley, MD]

Westonci and HairRobinHood

Thank you for the lively discussion of WNT. Doubtlessly the WNT pathway is critical in the formation of hair follicles. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the WNT pathway is activated when ACell coated plucked hair is implanted in the skin. However, I would be very cautious about adding exogenous WNT proteins as this may disturb the delicate balance of stimulatory/inhibitory factors present in this context. For example, it is well known that activation of WNT/beta-catenin is associated with tumor formation, which is why Cotsarelis' approach is requiring such careful animal studies and will be subjected to close regulatory scrutiny. In the past, some thought that Sonic Hedgehog stimulation had potential for hair loss treatment, but I believe that tumor formation occurred which shut down any further work on this. It may be that the Histogen approach, which uses a mix of embryonic proteins secreted by neonatal fibroblasts, is more desirable because that stimulatory/inhibitory system is already built in.

Regardless, use of either approach would require FDA supervised studies and should not be done by the surgeon at this time just to 'see what happens'. ACell is already FDA approved for wound healing and can be safely used as an adjunct to transplanting plucked hairs.

Thanks again for the thought provoking discussion.

[Westonci]

Westonci and HairRobinHood

Thank you for the lively discussion of WNT. Doubtlessly the WNT pathway is critical in the formation of hair follicles. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the WNT pathway is activated when ACell coated plucked hair is implanted in the skin. However, I would be very cautious about adding exogenous WNT proteins as this may disturb the delicate balance of stimulatory/inhibitory factors present in this context. For example, it is well known that activation of WNT/beta-catenin is associated with tumor formation, which is why Cotsarelis' approach is requiring such careful animal studies and will be subjected to close regulatory scrutiny. In the past, some thought that Sonic Hedgehog stimulation had potential for hair loss treatment, but I believe that tumor formation occurred which shut down any further work on this. It may be that the Histogen approach, which uses a mix of embryonic proteins secreted by neonatal fibroblasts, is more desirable because that stimulatory/inhibitory system is already built in.

Regardless, use of either approach would require FDA supervised studies and should not be done by the surgeon at this time just to 'see what happens'. ACell is already FDA approved for wound healing and can be safely used as an adjunct to transplanting plucked hairs.

Thanks again for the thought provoking discussion.

Sorry for bombarding you with millions of questions, but Im wondering how much you are charging per plucked hair. Even if you are not sure, could you estimate how much it would cost so that we could have an idea how much we should be saving for such procedure (and yes im aware that the results may or may not be permanent at this time).

Having said that, God bless you Dr. Cooley for your hard work, and I know that your name and Dr Hitzigs will go down in the history books for your contributions in this feild.

[wolvie1985]

Westconi, I may be wrong but I get the sense that pricing questions are probably best directed to Dr. Cooley's office directly. It is just a phonecall after all! Dr. Cooley, thanks again for your participation here as well as your patience. Class act all the way.

[wolvie1985]

I forgot to shout out to Dr. Hitzig as well! Sorry, Dr., I didn't see that you posted on here too. You're truly a pioneer in your field and given new hope to millions.