StayThick's Follicept Trial (4 week treatment)

[efedrez]

I also received the same email and it's quite disappointing to see how companies continue to underestimate the intelligence of the balding community.

I gave this guys the benefit of the doubt since they sounded honest but sending this email is very unethical and eliminates any trust and respect I had for them

[bigentries]

I also received the same email and it's quite disappointing to see how companies continue to underestimate the intelligence of the balding community.

Wait until supporters start pouring on the thread, claiming we need to "wait and see". Bald people are extremely desperate

As much as it is extremely unethical to run a "trial" of this kind. Why do people need to pay for an experimental treatment that has not shown any signs of working? The ethical thing is to pay people to try your stuff and compensate them in case something bad happens. What kind of information are they planing to gather with this? They couldn't even run a proper trial the first time and they had first hand contact with the subjects.

I'm even questioning if their insulin project is even real. People should send their gel for analysis, god knows if it has any trace of igf-1

[breakbot]

It's high time someone reports them to the fda.

Absolutely right.

[NeedHairASAP]

Can anyone with medical/academic research experience think of a legitimate reason that their team cannot go through with a formal trial? I've done academic research but in a different field, so I'm unsure of what their reasoning could be. (I'm not including financial/resource limitations since they claim it has nothing to do with this).

It's definitely financial reasons. There is no other reason.

There just isn't enough evidence for an investor to pay for a trial. My guess is this friends and family trial was suppose to give them something to bring to an investor, which would pay for a more extended trial. That didn't happen, so.

[noisette]

I also received the same email and it's quite disappointing to see how companies continue to underestimate the intelligence of the balding community.

I gave this guys the benefit of the doubt since they sounded honest but sending this email is very unethical and eliminates any trust and respect I had for them

I think the same thing ! I don't trust Follicept anymore, with this email and the poor trial they have made.

[just2hairs]

Agree, they've lost my support. It's absurd to ask for $125/mo without showing any proof of efficacy! They say to you'd have to drop minox too...HELL NO!

Oh well, still have my good ole minox...and fin.

[epipapilla]

Can anyone with medical/academic research experience think of a legitimate reason that their team cannot go through with a formal trial? I've done academic research but in a different field, so I'm unsure of what their reasoning could be. (I'm not including financial/resource limitations since they claim it has nothing to do with this).

It cost a lot of $$$ to conduct a formal clinical trial, it is definitely into the hundreds of thousands.

[noisette]

After that they said, they will sell anything until they prove it works, and everyone can afford it like minox... LOOOOOL

[Hicks]

Good thing I'm not poor. I'll drop minoxidil and drop $1k for this scam. I'll keep my results to myself best of luck guys!

[Hemo]

It cost a lot of $$$ to conduct a formal clinical trial, it is definitely into the hundreds of thousands.

They weren't going to run a true clinical trial...it was going to be comparable (but longer) to the convenience trial, but involve different dosages and durations. Doesn't really matter at this point.