Worst Advice to Give

[fred970]

Then why did my success with women sky-rocket after I reached NW5? I know I'm 6"3', but when I had a full-head of hair, I was never getting laid and was kind of invisible to girls.

I don't know, maybe the shaved look enhances my look, almost all the girls I have dated recently say I look silly with hair.

However, I think you are living in your head Notcoolanymore. You say things like that but you don't know that they are true for sure. I know it's hard to hear here, but I think the reality is that most women simply don't care that much. Of course they will always be superficial bitches who will feel entitled to a man with high height, a full head of hair, social status etc. Seriously, would you even want to get involved with that kind of girl?

I have a date with a hot girl next week, and she did not say anything about me being bald. I saw pictures of her ex on Facebook, as bald as a cue ball! And he's not even good looking. All I see in these posts are a lot of rationalizations, a lot of excuses to explain one's lack of success with women.

[Notcoolanymore]

Then why did my success with women sky-rocket after I reached NW5? I know I'm 6"3', but when I had a full-head of hair, I was never getting laid and was kind of invisible to girls.

I don't know, maybe the shaved look enhances my look, almost all the girls I have dated recently say I look silly with hair.

However, I think you are living in your head Notcoolanymore. You say things like that but you don't know that they are true for sure. I know it's hard to hear here, but I think the reality is that most women simply don't care that much. Of course they will always be superficial bitches who will feel entitled to a man with high height, a full head of hair, social status etc. Seriously, would you even want to get involved with that kind of girl?

I have a date with a hot girl next week, and she did not say anything about me being bald. I saw pictures of her ex on Facebook, as bald as a cue ball! And he's not even good looking. All I see in these posts are a lot of rationalizations, a lot of excuses to explain one's lack of success with women.

You are 100% right. I am not going to deny that I have mental issues when it comes to my looks. Just the way it is. I have no problem admitting it either.

I do believe that for the most part women do care about looks just as much as we care about how a woman looks. Women prefer to be with a better looking guy: hair, no beer gut, etc. Just like we prefer better looking women: pretty face, good shape, nice hair, smells good, etc.

Again there are exceptions to the rule. So you don't have hair, but I have seen your pics and you are a good looking guy, in good shape, tall, educated (assuming because of your posts). IMO, you don't have much going against you. Now the average bald guy most likely isn't going to look good without his hair. He is already at a disadvantage. I am not saying if you are bald you are destined to be with an undesirable woman, but it sure as hell doesn't help.

[fred970]

Women prefer to be with a better looking guy: hair, no beer gut, etc. Just like we prefer better looking women: pretty face, good shape, nice hair, smells good, etc.

Yeah we all dream to go out with a feminine model-type girl who cooks amazing meals and is great in bed. Does that mean no men will settle for a woman below this? Of course not. And that goes for women too, sure you hear a lot of women saying they deserve a guy who is tall, handsome, successful etc. Yet when I wander in the streets of Brussels, I see plenty of (hot looking) women with guys of average height, sometimes shorter than them, or guys that are bald, even fat.

We all like to pretend we only settle for nothing but the best, but that's just the ego talking, and it's certainly not reality.

[Notcoolanymore]

Yeah we all dream to go out with a feminine model-type girl who cooks amazing meals and is great in bed. Does that mean no men will settle for a woman below this? Of course not. And that goes for women too, sure you hear a lot of women saying they deserve a guy who is tall, handsome, successful etc. Yet when I wander in the streets of Brussels, I see plenty of (hot looking) women with guys of average height, sometimes shorter than them, or guys that are bald, even fat.

We all like to pretend we only settle for nothing but the best, but that's just the ego talking, and it's certainly not reality.

I'm moving to Brussels tomorrow. Do you mind of I stay with you until I find a place of my own?

BTW one of my favorite action stars from back in the day is from Brussels, Jean Claude Van Damme was/is a bad ass. He would not have had the success/career he had if he was bald.

[fred970]

Well he's definitely getting there:

[Illusion]

Heh. I feel exactly the same about this. The only thing I want to do is start a treatment, really. But I can't start fin yet because of my age. Some of you might know I was all enthusiastic and stuff about starting RU... Well, I guess that was just the excitement of the moment because I'm not taking RU anyday soon the way it is now.

I don't know what's worse: Seeing my hairline recede pretty rapidly and feeling my crown getting thinner and thinner or not being able to treat it because I'm too young. (Yes I can start minox but that won't do anything to actually 'treat' MPB as you all know). I'm probably seeing a 2nd dermatologist soon. I'm hoping he'll prescribe me fin because I can't take this anymore. I'm starting to get really paranoid. I've even had two anxiety attacks last week while I never had those before (for those wondering, I'm visiting a psychologist soon to get some real help.)

I just don't want to wait to my 18th ffs. You know what's funny? I think the guys who start balding in their 40's are envy the guys who have full heads of hair at the same age, the guys who are mid 30's envy the 40's, the guys in their mid 20's envy the mid 30's and the guys in their late teens envy the mid 20's... I know this sounds weird and I also know that the last thing you guys want to do is to relativate, but if you think like this it's not even that bad to start going bald at -lets say- 27. I would take your spot any day: I would have 10 years of enjoying my full head of hair and by the time I'm starting to recede, there are probably better medications out there (there HAS to be something better in 2024 right?)

I know a lot of people would think I'm a psycho b/c I want to start fin at this age, but I think that some of the guys in this thread understand the feelings I have that make me wanna do this.

[Evolution]

Heh. I feel exactly the same about this. The only thing I want to do is start a treatment, really. But I can't start fin yet because of my age. Some of you might know I was all enthusiastic and stuff about starting RU... Well, I guess that was just the excitement of the moment because I'm not taking RU anyday soon the way it is now.

I don't know what's worse: Seeing my hairline recede pretty rapidly and feeling my crown getting thinner and thinner or not being able to treat it because I'm too young. (Yes I can start minox but that won't do anything to actually 'treat' MPB as you all know). I'm probably seeing a 2nd dermatologist soon. I'm hoping he'll prescribe me fin because I can't take this anymore. I'm starting to get really paranoid. I've even had two anxiety attacks last week while I never had those before (for those wondering, I'm visiting a psychologist soon to get some real help.)

I just don't want to wait to my 18th ffs. You know what's funny? I think the guys who start balding in their 40's are envy the guys who have full heads of hair at the same age, the guys who are mid 30's envy the 40's, the guys in their mid 20's envy the mid 30's and the guys in their late teens envy the mid 20's... I know this sounds weird and I also know that the last thing you guys want to do is to relativate, but if you think like this it's not even that bad to start going bald at -lets say- 27. I would take your spot any day: I would have 10 years of enjoying my full head of hair and by the time I'm starting to recede, there are probably better medications out there (there HAS to be something better in 2024 right?)

I know a lot of people would think I'm a psycho b/c I want to start fin at this age, but I think that some of the guys in this thread understand the feelings I have that make me wanna do this.

I started going bald at 16, starting taking fin at 16. I'm 20 now, it's saved most of my hair along with 10% minixidil. I got a prescription for Dutasteride, might take that along with fin. YOU MUST GET ON A DHT INHIBITOR TO HAVE A CHANCE OF FIGHTING HAIRLOSS.

Best of luck. My parents at the time I was 16 tried everything they could for me not to take fin. If I had listened to them, I'd be totally bald now.

[Lina Henley]

I noticed that a lot of people do that here... thanks for bringing that to light. The best cure is prevention and telling someone to not worry may endanger their concerns :O

[Jackito]

"Your hair looks great, enjoy life" "Stop worrying, enjoy your youth"

I hear this all the time. You get these young guys come here that know they are losing their hair and asking for help. And they end up getting advice that all is good and not to worry about it. It doesn't matter how young you are, you know when you are losing your hair. I knew in my early twenties when my hair was going to shit.

Just because these young guys are in better shape then many of us in here doesn't mean that all is good and that they should delay treatment because they are not a NW3 or worse. We need to stop comparing these guys to ourselves and thinking that just because they are in better shape than we are, that they should delay treating their hair loss. Putting off treatment is almost the worst thing you can do, since most of what you lose you will likely never get back.

I have seen many guys around here get crap because they are at the beginning stages of hair loss and they are doing everything they can to stop it. If I could go back in time I would do the same and maybe still have most of my hair today.

This is very relatable to my current situation. I'm 19 heading towards a Norwood 2 and I'm considering starting treatments soon.. could you check my posts and give me some advice on what I should do?