RepliCel Reports Progress on Shiseido Technology

[Thinning87]

I get it...you're desperate for something and when the truth hits home the first reaction is to lash out at the one bearing the truth...these personal attacks don't even make sense -- I'm not attacking you, I'm attacking what you are desperate to believe in...Not much difference than a holy war...a sad display here for sure...

...but the truth is this -- If this was going to work, they wouldn't partner with a flippin cosmetics company!!! They could have written their own ticket to getting this to market...it's that simple and you know it!! This is such a three-ring circus display that it's ridiculous...

...Repli-cel will NOT get anything better than what people are getting by derma-rolling ... there are other things coming out wayyyy before this does that will make this whole thing toast....

sorry

No you don't get it. Your conclusions are based on false logic. The fact that it's a cosmetic company doesn't prove they are not a reliable partner for funding, nor that they have not been able to partner with anybody else.

You see, you tell me that I'm desperate, but in fact it's the depressed ones like yourself who are the truly desperate members of this forum. Just like you showed in your posts, these members are completely ignorant about the topic they are discussing and will instead pick two or three details to prove their own ultra pessimistic conclusions, all reflecting their feelings of self pity and failure.

Replicel's initial data is indeed disappointing, but it's what every phase 1 study is. All of them don't show much, including the more promising Follica. That's because phase one is performed to prove safety, not efficacy. This doesn't mean replicel will necessarily show a full blown cure in phase 2B, but it will work to develop methods to optimize the process and improve its results, to an extent you in all your ignorance cannot predict.

In conclusion, and I will go to end after writing this, allow me to remind you that if you're an ignorant idiot like you've shown so far, there is no full head of hair that will ever save you from your own stupidity.

[Sparky4444]

No you don't get it. Your conclusions are based on false logic. The fact that it's a cosmetic company doesn't prove they are not a reliable partner for funding, nor that they have not been able to partner with anybody else.

You see, you tell me that I'm desperate, but in fact it's the depressed ones like yourself who are the truly desperate members of this forum. Just like you showed in your posts, these members are completely ignorant about the topic they are discussing and will instead pick two or three details to prove their own ultra pessimistic conclusions, all reflecting their feelings of self pity and failure.

Replicel's initial data is indeed disappointing, but it's what every phase 1 study is. All of them don't show much, including the more promising Follica. That's because phase one is performed to prove safety, not efficacy. This doesn't mean replicel will necessarily show a full blown cure in phase 2B, but it will work to develop methods to optimize the process and improve its results, to an extent you in all your ignorance cannot predict.

In conclusion, and I will go to end after writing this, allow me to remind you that if you're an ignorant idiot like you've shown so far, there is no full head of hair that will ever save you from your own stupidity.

You're the one talking ignorant and going on a rant, not me..you're the one name calling, not me...

You're just pissed off because you know the only way you're gonna keep your hair is with a HT and it's going to cost you ten's of thousands of $$ ...plain and simple...I've accepted it...maybe it's time you do to...

You're a sad, pathetic and desperate human being....I feel pity for you

[Thinning87]

You're the one talking ignorant and going on a rant, not me..you're the one name calling, not me...

You're just pissed off because you know the only way you're gonna keep your hair is with a HT and it's going to cost you ten's of thousands of $$ ...plain and simple...I've accepted it...maybe it's time you do to...

You're a sad, pathetic and desperate human being....I feel pity for you

This is no rant, I'm very calm. Your logic is wrong because it uses irrelevant details to infer something you have concluded not based on all the facts but based on what you have decided will be true. Which is a failure of everything that has a potential to improve current treatments. Your attitude reflects a tendency to find refuge in self pity, ultimately reflecting your uncommonly small intellect (which is also clear from your poor command of the language).

Like I said, you should consider more schooling because if they will every come up with a cure, you will still remain the useless idiot you have proved to be and no hair will save you from your own stupidity.

[Sparky4444]

..because if they will every come up with a cure,

..ummmmm..yeah, I'm the one that needs more education..,write much??

[Thinning87]

..ummmmm..yeah, I'm the one that needs more education..,write much??

You also haven't been able to provide a logical argument on the topic and the issues I presented. You are in fact a man child, and wrong.

[garethbale]

Can you two give it a rest...

[Julian P]

I don't like these everlasting discussions between two members, but I've got to agree with Thinning87 here. Calling Replicel a scam is just ridiculous. They are researching a solution, but I've heard that it is quite difficult to cure hairloss, so no one should expect direct results. If every company that does not get substanial results from the start would have to stop it's project immediatly, there will never be a cure.

And off course they need money, good researchers are not going to work for free, not to mention the cost of equipment etc. Money being invested is a good sign, it means there is potential (not that it is going to work for sure).

[CAlex]

This WONT be available in 2015. The current phase of trials is supposed to begin in early to mid 2014 and will run through 2015. I dont think this could be available until 2016-17 at the earliest. http://www.berkleyrenewables.com/s/RepliCel.asp

if everything goes as planned (and we KNOW it never does in these clinical trials) the trial might finish in mid 2015 and then a few months to go over dats etc and then we will see.

Hopefully having Shiseidos money behind them helps steamroll this bitch and keep things on track

[hellouser]

Good news;

RepliCel Life Sciences’ Licensing Partner, Shiseido, Opens Cell Processing and Expansion Facility in Japan to Advance RCH-01, a Treatment for Pattern Baldness

Source:

http://www.replicel.com/replicel-life-sciences-licensing-partner-shiseido-opens-cell-processing-and-expansion-facility-in-japan-to-advance-rch-01-a-treatment-for-pattern-baldness/

[Jazz1]

Thank god its not USA!

[Thinning@30]

Interesting. I hope this doesn't get overlooked amidst all the talk and speculation coming out of the hair restoration congress. It would be nice to get confirmation that Replicel has indeed started the next phase of the trials.

[downandout]

Hellouser, possibly the best line of the whole article "Legislative support has come from the introduction of new laws to expedite otherwise lengthy clinical research and trial application processes to promote competitive advantage in the international market"

[FearTheLoss]

is this phase 2b for them or phase 3?

[hellouser]

Hellouser, possibly the best line of the whole article "Legislative support has come from the introduction of new laws to expedite otherwise lengthy clinical research and trial application processes to promote competitive advantage in the international market"

NICE! I think I'm going to email Tammy from Replicel and see if that part means what we hope it does.

I've said it before in other threads that the clinical trials in other jurisdictions use an arbitrary number for years to prove efficacy, in essence, what does 15 years of trials tell us that 5 years does not?

[yagazooci]

Research of this type is sloooow. Japanese governance seems to have realized that tho finding such products to be safe and effective takes time, they can cut the bureaucracy on their end and lead the way in being first out the gate in such technologies. I read somewhere that this jibes with their economic reform. And with other streams proffered by folks like Replicel in tendon and skin aging repair, there seems to be something of a boon in the industry coming… Bully for these biotech industry leaders I say.