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    Quote Originally Posted by FrenchNewbie View Post
    Ok. It's your opinion. We respect it. So now, why do you continue? 30 pages with the same word. Now could we talk about this technology. Let informed people talk about IGF1. The possible limits if it works (if it could work ad vitam eternam or not)... Etc, etc.
    Read back the thread. You started attacking me and I responded. I could have chosen to not respond of course. Or you could not have initiated the attack. Probably a bit more efficient, what do you think ?

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    Alright, it is done now. We say not scam. Arashi says scam. Come the end of the year, we will see who is right. Let's not touch on this topic until results start coming. Now, we wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi View Post
    Anyone can speak at a conference. Heck, they even scheduled dr Nigam to speak last year at WCHR 2014 ! I emailed them with some info on Dr Nigam and then they canceled his scheduled speaking time based on the proof of his scams I had sent them. But if I hadnt done it, he had probably spoken at last years conference. Just saying, speaking at a conference, who cares. We need PROOF.
    The question is directed to Devon and the Follicept team.

    Arashi,

    I used to respect your contributions but at this point your are limiting my right, our right, to be properly informed about a potential treatment and this is unacceptable

    It's to everyone best interest to know as much as possible and having Devon presenting in front of a group of scientists will give us a much better oppinion than what we can achieve from a group of guys in the Internet

    We have the right to judge for our self and not from a faceless guys on an Internet forum desperate to prove he is right

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    Quote Originally Posted by efedrez View Post
    The question is directed to Devon and the Follicept team.

    Arashi,

    I used to respect your contributions but at this point your are limiting my right, our right, to be properly informed about a potential treatment and this is unacceptable

    It's to everyone best interest to know as much as possible and having Devon presenting in front of a group of scientists will give us a much better oppinion than what we can achieve from a group of guys in the Internet

    We have the right to judge for our self and not from a faceless guys on an Internet forum desperate to prove he is right
    You only want to read Devon's post. It's easy put anyone's post you don't care about, like mine, on ignore. That's why that function exists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi View Post
    Read back the thread. You started attacking me and I responded. I could have chosen to not respond of course. Or you could not have initiated the attack. Probably a bit more efficient, what do you think ?
    What a joke. You came before me and you was speaking about "scamming, scamming, scamming". I reacted about that. Ok, i shut up and let specialists speaking about this new technology. You should do the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrenchNewbie View Post
    What a joke. You came before me and you was speaking about "scamming, scamming, scamming". I reacted about that. Ok, i shut up and let specialists speaking about this new technology. You should do the same thing.
    You created a post with lies, serious accusations, even petitioning to have me banned and you expect me not to react... Ok.

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    Frenchnewbie, don't even respond, my friend. Just..moving forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nameless View Post
    How about because it's a bad idea to send experimental chemicals across the country, and even to other countries, so that people who have not been medically assessed and cleared can experiment with that experimental chemical even though the company has no ability to physically monitor that subject and properly assess data, including safety data? Is that good enough for you?

    Now you promised to leave if someone came up with a good reason so don't let the door hit you in the @ss on the way out.
    Strong argument, counselor.

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    Arashi doesnt want it to work maybe because he has had a HT.
    Or he works for some HT doctors.
    Hey everybody please listen. Ignore him, dont respond to his post.
    He likes argue, he feels happy when so many ppl reacts.
    It's the ignoring of him and chatting among ourselves that can make him feel bored and leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi View Post
    Look, ask yourself, what would you do ? You have developed this new revolutionary system, that can bring large molecules through the dermis without them going systematic (or in such a small amount that it doesnt matter). This is gold. What do you do ? I wouldn't even have the TIME to visit a forum ! I would be calling every single pharma and hedge fund out there, talking to all of them, seeing which one wants to pay the most. But here's Devon, failed to attract any substantial investor, joining a forum for baldies to ... yeah that's still a mystery to me, what exactly.
    They are going to release results in the next two weeks. what is your plan? To just keep complaining about having no proof for the next two weeks?

    To me, there isn't much to talk about until we get results. Then we can scrutinize said results (as I and everyone else plan to). Up until then, what else is there to do?

    It seems backwards to complain about no proof when they've given a timeline for releasing proof (and that timeline is YEARS shorter than other products timelines for releasing proof). It's like arashi is desperately trying to fill the forum with nonsense and brain-dead discussion up while he has a 2-week vacuum.

    I just don't get the reason for trying to defame and slander some new company who has been pretty open to divulging information... and is working diligently to get some testing done and results posted... what else can we ask for? Seems like a pretty optimal situation.

    Essentially, to arashi, everything is a scam that must get shut down immmidiately. Don't speak unless you have FDA-approved trial results with tricho-scans. Give the forum ZERO information until then. Is that really the ideal situation? I don't think so.

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