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  • NeedHairASAP
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 1410

    Crowdfund Salaries

    I know I'm not the only one who feels research moves slowly.

    You geel like lauster and cots aren't out there everyday making progress.

    Crowdfund a company.

    Pay these guys (or other substitutable subjects). To work their asses off everyday and make real progress.
  • DesperateOne
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 289

    #2
    There has been some talk about it, but it seems that it's not going to happen. People just want the cure handed to them and not do anything about it.

    I think the only way it will work is if Joe from Staten Island is the poster child of the event. He would be great publicity and it would work IMO. If only he wasn't such a coward and show his face.

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    • hellouser
      Senior Member
      • May 2012
      • 4423

      #3
      Originally posted by DesperateOne
      There has been some talk about it, but it seems that it's not going to happen. People just want the cure handed to them and not do anything about it.

      I think the only way it will work is if Joe from Staten Island is the poster child of the event. He would be great publicity and it would work IMO. If only he wasn't such a coward and show his face.
      Please refrain from posting LIES. There has already been WORK done, not talk. You guys have just yet to see the progress as we're keeping things under wraps for now.

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      • the_dude78
        Senior Member
        • May 2011
        • 191

        #4
        Originally posted by DesperateOne
        There has been some talk about it, but it seems that it's not going to happen. People just want the cure handed to them and not do anything about it.

        I think the only way it will work is if Joe from Staten Island is the poster child of the event. He would be great publicity and it would work IMO. If only he wasn't such a coward and show his face.
        Who is this "Joe from Staten Island"? I've seen him mentioned here a few times lately.

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        • DesperateOne
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2013
          • 289

          #5
          Originally posted by hellouser
          Please refrain from posting LIES. There has already been WORK done, not talk. You guys have just yet to see the progress as we're keeping things under wraps for now.
          Okay, my apologies, but since nothing has come up, you can see why I would say that.

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          • DesperateOne
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2013
            • 289

            #6
            Originally posted by the_dude78
            Who is this "Joe from Staten Island"? I've seen him mentioned here a few times lately.
            He is the guy who has been on the show for over 10 years, he usually gives out the news and latest finds. Everyone knows him and because of his story, I personally think he would bring a lot of attention. Actually, I might call in tomorrow and talk to him about this and also about the derma rolling. Or has someone already called recently regarding this? I have not seen the show in over a month.

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            • greatjob!
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 910

              #7
              I appreciate the crowdfund idea but I think your hopes of raising large sums of money are unrealistic. Unless you can get a big respected name or company to support the effort or have something really tangible to show potential donors you aren't going to raise much money. I know that for me personally I'm not going to donate any money to a crowdfunding operation without a clear concise plan to achieve results or a prototype of some kind, all I've heard so far is an attempt to raise money to start some theoretical company or fund any number of future treatments with no real focus or concise plan. Say you do raise millions of dollars, what treatment will be the focus of the money, how will it be managed?

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              • HairBane
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 300

                #8
                I think if it was done right, with full support from the company and a lot of planning and organizing, it could raise several million dollars, especially if it was marketed as a hair loss cure, I can see lots of rich middle-aged guys chipping in if the rewards were good.

                What would it be for though? Cosmo's CB? Histogen's HSC? Aderan's Ji Gami? Replicel? Follica?

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                • hellouser
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 4423

                  #9
                  Originally posted by HairBane
                  I think if it was done right, with full support from the company and a lot of planning and organizing, it could raise several million dollars, especially if it was marketed as a hair loss cure, I can see lots of rich middle-aged guys chipping in if the rewards were good.

                  What would it be for though? Cosmo's CB? Histogen's HSC? Aderan's Ji Gami? Replicel? Follica?
                  We can easily raise millions if enough people put in an honest effort into the cause rather than a pessimistic approach to it.

                  Its yet to be decided what the funds will go for specifically, but definitely not CB for Cosmo, thats not a cure, only a bandaid solution.... so not good enough.

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                  • greatjob!
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 910

                    #10
                    Originally posted by hellouser

                    Its yet to be decided what the funds will go for specifically, but definitely not CB for Cosmo, thats not a cure, only a bandaid solution.... so not good enough.
                    This is why I don't think it's going to work. This idea is all over the map. The current plan is basically just to ask for millions of dollars so it can be spent on an undecided or undiscovered treatment/cure or whatever, no one is going to donate to that especially considering the history of the hairloss world with unending snake oil after snake oil. Successful crowdfunding campaigns are always for clearly defined products or technology, most of which already have a prototype or patent. You're not going to raise anything by simply asking for bald people to donate to a "cure" without any idea what that cure is.

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                    • brunobald
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 172

                      #11
                      I would contribute a small donation say £2 for a speculative punt on the whim that something might arise. I bet you could find 1,000,000 others that would do the same. We could buy an old church or something and fill it with lab equipment. Pay some pro active members to run the place and tout for others to come and volunteer.

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                      • hellouser
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 4423

                        #12
                        Originally posted by greatjob!
                        This is why I don't think it's going to work. This idea is all over the map. The current plan is basically just to ask for millions of dollars so it can be spent on an undecided or undiscovered treatment/cure or whatever, no one is going to donate to that especially considering the history of the hairloss world with unending snake oil after snake oil. Successful crowdfunding campaigns are always for clearly defined products or technology, most of which already have a prototype or patent. You're not going to raise anything by simply asking for bald people to donate to a "cure" without any idea what that cure is.
                        Youre only validating my point about your pessimism. Nothing is set in stone, and only we're only planning on what to do yet you make everyone else reading your comments believe that everything has already been completed. We aren't even 100% set on the name/logo and youre already claiming failure and saying the 'idea is all over the map'. Thats pretty disingenuous. I would advise you either don't make further comments that are misinforming or actually contribute ideas to the project that is in its infancy. You don't realize how much time, strategy and planning is involved before things are actually set in stone before its even executed. Youre correct this has to be done perfectly, so we're trying to cover all the bases. This isn't a 5 minute or weekend project. So far there are only a handful of us putting some effort into a strategy.

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                        • greatjob!
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 910

                          #13
                          Originally posted by hellouser
                          Youre only validating my point about your pessimism. Nothing is set in stone, and only we're only planning on what to do yet you make everyone else reading your comments believe that everything has already been completed. We aren't even 100% set on the name/logo and youre already claiming failure and saying the 'idea is all over the map'. Thats pretty disingenuous. I would advise you either don't make further comments that are misinforming or actually contribute ideas to the project that is in its infancy. You don't realize how much time, strategy and planning is involved before things are actually set in stone before its even executed. Youre correct this has to be done perfectly, so we're trying to cover all the bases. This isn't a 5 minute or weekend project. So far there are only a handful of us putting some effort into a strategy.
                          I'm not being pessimistic, just realistic. Good luck I hope it works out well.

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                          • HairBane
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 300

                            #14
                            Originally posted by hellouser
                            We can easily raise millions if enough people put in an honest effort into the cause rather than a pessimistic approach to it.

                            Its yet to be decided what the funds will go for specifically, but definitely not CB for Cosmo, thats not a cure, only a bandaid solution.... so not good enough.
                            Yeah absolutely. You seem pretty knowledgeable, so which of the up and coming cell-based biotech solutions seem the most promising to you? I heard Ji Gami only works for 60% of people, and I've seen nothing impressive in terms of numbers or pictures from anyone else. Also, is your name pronounced hello-user? I've always wondered.

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                            • hellouser
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 4423

                              #15
                              Originally posted by HairBane
                              Yeah absolutely. You seem pretty knowledgeable, so which of the up and coming cell-based biotech solutions seem the most promising to you? I heard Ji Gami only works for 60% of people, and I've seen nothing impressive in terms of numbers or pictures from anyone else.
                              The way I see it is whos in and whos out:

                              In:
                              Histogen - Apparently Gail Naughton was running the company on her credit cards. I think thats ground for financial support. At 85% responder rate and continued growth after 1 year from small doses, that is great.

                              Out:
                              Cosmo & CB - Kane already has CB. We don't need it.
                              Replicel - They've got Shiseido dumping millions for them, they don't need any more cash.

                              Undecided
                              Follica - already has funding from PureTech Ventures, however this could be looked into. I've actually got more faith in them than Aderans; they've got Dr. Cotsarelis and are in Phase II right now (or just about to begin Phase II).
                              Aderans - they got their funding cut, so they could use some cash, although I have little to no faith in them actually making deadlines, theyre the laziest of all biotechs out there.

                              Other Goals - Dr. Lauster?
                              I proposed this before; *all/most proceeds* go to anyone who can show a complete working cure. The rest goes to the other initiatives. Now, seeing how Dr. Roland Lauster pretty much already has this, I'd like to see this be made available TODAY. Its sad though thats as many options as we have.

                              Also, is your name pronounced hello-user? I've always wondered.
                              Yup, Hello User, like 'Hello World' the basic programming language project for noobs.

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