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    Quote Originally Posted by inbrugge View Post
    "This ingredient is currently in Phase III trials in the US" - By 'Miracle' the guy preparing the lotion.

    Which chemical is this then? I thought there was nothing in phase 3. Doesn't that suggest scam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by allTheGoodNamesAreTaken View Post
    Which chemical is this then? I thought there was nothing in phase 3. Doesn't that suggest scam?
    inbrigge said, the guy i wating for a patent. So we will not know what the exact ingredients are and in which proportions until he got a confirmation in terms of turkish bureaucracy (probably slow)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keeper View Post
    inbrigge said, the guy i wating for a patent. So we will not know what the exact ingredients are and in which proportions until he got a confirmation in terms of turkish bureaucracy (probably slow)
    I know but regardless of what it is, if there's nothing in phase 3 right now... the person behind this must be bullshitting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by allTheGoodNamesAreTaken View Post
    I know but regardless of what it is, if there's nothing in phase 3 right now... the person behind this must be bullshitting?
    CRTH-2 antagonists are being used as asthma treatments. Remember Setipripant is also an asthma medicine.
    With the discovery of PGD2 and PGE2 as hair loss related, recent theories are that AGA is also related to immune problems the same way asthma is.
    I mean they are certainly talking about valid targets for hair loss treatment, however there is something really concerning about an explosion of potential hair loss treatments using science as their basis.
    Basically a lot of snake oils graduated from saw palmeto, vitamins and potassium to stem cells revitalization and PGD2 inhibitors, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sogeking View Post
    CRTH-2 antagonists are being used as asthma treatments. Remember Setipripant is also an asthma medicine.
    With the discovery of PGD2 and PGE2 as hair loss related, recent theories are that AGA is also related to immune problems the same way asthma is.
    I mean they are certainly talking about valid targets for hair loss treatment, however there is something really concerning about an explosion of potential hair loss treatments using science as their basis.
    Basically a lot of snake oils graduated from saw palmeto, vitamins and potassium to stem cells revitalization and PGD2 inhibitors, etc.
    Ahh right that makes sense.

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    @inbrugge:

    Can you try to translate on the first post of "Miracle" how they apply it? It looks like they they stoped their treatments they used before (minox/dut/biotin/"miracle lotion"--> I think it was the first treatment, that the user Miracle created and now improved too "Cellagance Lotion")

    Also "Miracle" updates everyday with posts, maybe there are some new information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keeper View Post
    inbrigge said, the guy i wating for a patent. So we will not know what the exact ingredients are and in which proportions until he got a confirmation in terms of turkish bureaucracy (probably slow)
    If he already filed a patent, he should be able to tell us... that doesn't make sense.

    If he gets the patent, it'll be dated for when he filed.... If he doesn't get the patent, then he'll not have a patent anyway.

    My guess is maybe he didn't file yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeedHairASAP View Post
    If he already filed a patent, he should be able to tell us... that doesn't make sense.

    If he gets the patent, it'll be dated for when he filed.... If he doesn't get the patent, then he'll not have a patent anyway.

    My guess is maybe he didn't file yet.

    Yea I am actually getting ready to test a stand alone treatment that's completely Novel. It's will mimic Rogaine but on steroids. I am asking people to sign NDA because I want the technology in my hands before I file provisional. This is because from provisional application you only have 1 year to file the expensive patent. Because it will take 6-9 months typically to show early results I want to use that entire year before I have to get investors to pay the 30-40k that it will cost me to file patent. What I am saying is the moment I file provisional I have 1 year of complete protection and no longer need NDA. So if this guy did file patent he should be able to share his ingredients. Therefore, bull shit meter is going off.

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