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    The latest updte is that they are still planing to release something in Asia(not japan) in 2013, and for introduction in America by 2015. Again this is all on the notion that phase 1 and 2 go well and that they are able to get quick funding for the phase 3 trials. We will have to wait till summer to see the early results. If anyone wants to email them, they can go to the Histogen website and find the emails. If the these first 2 trials go well we should more then likely see fast funding. Lets just hope this happens.

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    What i dont get is how Dr cooley and Dr hitzig say 2 different things in there findings. Dr Cooley has said hes not able to multiply hairs with Acell, but Dr hitzigf says hes implanted 50 hairs on one patient and saw 150 hairs after. Dr Hitzig shows more then one patient with multiplication. Dr Hitzig also shows that he can mantain donor hairs in a strip procedure and reuse them where Dr cooley mentions he see no new hairs in a strip but one better looking and feeling scars. Why do these 2 doctors show different results or am i missing something

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    Quote Originally Posted by miozambrotta19 View Post
    What i dont get is how Dr cooley and Dr hitzig say 2 different things in there findings. Dr Cooley has said hes not able to multiply hairs with Acell, but Dr hitzigf says hes implanted 50 hairs on one patient and saw 150 hairs after. Dr Hitzig shows more then one patient with multiplication. Dr Hitzig also shows that he can mantain donor hairs in a strip procedure and reuse them where Dr cooley mentions he see no new hairs in a strip but one better looking and feeling scars. Why do these 2 doctors show different results or am i missing something
    The simple answer is: They used different methods in the usage of ACell.

    Essential quotations …

    Dr. Cooley
    http://www.iahrs.org/news/dr-jerry-c...-presentation/

    Autocloning (plucking and transplanting plucked beard and/or scalp hairs):

    Concerning “Autocloning”, in his presentation Dr. Cooley didn’t explicitly mention in which way (or if at all?) he applied ACell for Autocloning. He is just talking about “Hitzig’s Autocloning technique” in HIS presentation – that’s all.

    ACell and Follicular Unit grafting (standard hair transplant):

    Dr. Cooley: “Acell MatriStem™ powder - Mixed with saline and applied to grafts”

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    Dr. Hitzig
    http://www.iahrs.org/news/acell-matr...inary-results/

    Dr. Hitzig: “Plucked hairs further coated with ACell.” – “Plucked hair soaking in ACell suspension.”
    Dr. Hitzig: “ACell was injected in the recipient region during procedure.”
    Dr. Hitzig: “Every single hair I put in there let grow 3 – 4 hairs.”
    Dr. Hitzig: „ACell [powder mixed with arterial blood from the donor area = ‘suspension’] being injected directly into scalp.”

    There’s the difference. That means, to multiply (plucked) hairs, you also need in addition to an ECM (e.g. ACell) suitable GROWTH FACTORS (e.g. PRP) – and NOT e.g. saline solution (leads to apoptosis!!).

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    this concerns me. i'm going in for the autocloning with dr. cooley and thought that he and hitzig were using the same soaking technique.

    anyone heard if cooley is adjusting his technique?

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    Not true, read the following link

    http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?...8&DISPLAY=DESC

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    In the description Plucked hair + ECM is used, and they quote the following

    "It is the object of this invention to overcome one or more of the above-mentioned problems, and thus to provide a method for the reproduction of human hair in which a long culturing time is not required. Extracellular matrix is produced by the (support) cells around the hair follicle. From our own research it is apparent that this Extracellular Matrix is essential for hair growth. In this invention the hairs are no longer cultured in a keratinocyte culture medium but are simply immersed for a short time in a medium which contains extracellular matrix or substitutes therefor. The hair is then put back. With this technique several hairs can grow as a result of putting back a single hair. The method according to the invention is moreover patient-friendly, because only plucked hairs can be used and no invasive method or anaesthesia is necessary, the patient does not have to come back for a second treatment after"

    "According to this invention it is thus not necessary to culture the hair follicle cells; merely immersing the hair in the medium which contains extracellular matrix components or substitutes therefor is sufficient. The hair is then put back in the scalp, after which several hairs grow out of this one hair."

    In the last step c) the hair of step b) is implanted in the scalp. This hair - or at least the part of the hair to which the stem cells are attached - has been in contact with a medium which contains extracellular matrix components or substitutes therefor, and probably as a consequence of this the hair stem cells which are located in that part have been 'activated1, so that they too can develop into hairs. As a consequence of this the implantation of the single hair of step b) results in the growth of one or several hairs ."

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    Default Stem cell bald cure possibly!!

    With all this talk about Acell, I am surprised that no one on this forum, including Spencer, has brought up the news this week about stem cell research.

    I am referring to the report that stem cells have been used, for the very first time, to create a living hair follicle. This report comes from Ronald Lauster at Berlin Technical University. The news has been reported in the popular media during the past few days. Spencer, what do you think about this news? The guy predicts people will be able to use this in 5 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CVAZBAR View Post
    With all this talk about Acell, I am surprised that no one on this forum, including Spencer, has brought up the news this week about stem cell research.

    I am referring to the report that stem cells have been used, for the very first time, to create a living hair follicle. This report comes from Ronald Lauster at Berlin Technical University. The news has been reported in the popular media during the past few days. Spencer, what do you think about this news? The guy predicts people will be able to use this in 5 years.
    He talked it briefly about it last Sunday during his radio show.

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    If every hair transplanted grows 3-4 hairs and this gets much better yield than FUE/FUT then this is definitely something truly awesome, actually.

    If a 2000 graft transplant can be done, you can get ~7000 hairs growing...good hairs. I don't know anything about shock loss or whatever but I am pretty sure this could restore most hairlines.



    If you get 2 procedures done or more...then you could have some really thick hair growing! But that would take a years worth of salary for any normal person and also almost 2 years of waiting for results?

    Definitely awesome... Just time and money are both not so sweet with this. But I think it's a good option for anyone.

    I'd like to know if it will interfere with future solutions though, like regenerative medicine etc.

    Would most likely cost a fortune...but I guess thats normal for something this new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HairRobinHood View Post
    There’s the difference. That means, to multiply (plucked) hairs, you also need in addition to an ECM (e.g. ACell) suitable GROWTH FACTORS (e.g. PRP) – and NOT e.g. saline solution (leads to apoptosis!!).
    By the way ...

    Krugluger W, Moser K, Moser C, Laciak K, Hugeneck J.
    Enhancement of in vitro hair shaft elongation in follicles stored in buffers that prevent follicle cell apoptosis.
    Dermatol Surg. 2004;30:1–5; discussion 5.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14692918


    @mkamph - stop stop stop concerning your concerns:
    I've no idea what Dr. Cooley currently is doing. I just mentioned what HE mentioned in his ACell presentation. That means, maybe I just understood something wrong and maybe he currently is doing similar procedures like Dr. Hitzig - no idea ...

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