Is it agreed that there will be a cure

[Nerve]

I was just wondering if there was an agreed consensus that there is a cure for baldness on the horizon. I hear a lot of talk about promising result from tests and I hear 4 or 5 years being banded about a lot. So is it agreed in the industry that in double that, in 10 years time, we will probably have a cure or are we just hoping on the most recent experiments?
By cure I mean, growing hair back.

[Conpecia]

I'd say closer to 15 or even 20 years for a full-blown cure, unfortunately. I have yet to see any product remotely close to being able to bring a NW7 all the way back, or even fully restore a NW3 to native density. And the stuff slated for 2015-17 seems only an improvement over current treatments but nowhere near a cure. That being said, a lot of stuff is on the horizon and there could be exponential improvements that come out of nowhere, but if someone put a gun to my head and said gimme a timeframe, I'd say 15 years if you look at where we are now and the treatments that will be available in 3-5 years, in addition to how ****ing long it takes to get FDA approval through trials. Let's hope I'm wrong.

[Morbo]

I agree with what Conpecia said.

Most specialists agree on the fact that we/they know a lot more about hair-loss than they did 10 years ago and they've made significant progress in discovering the causes. But in terms of a real effective (perhaps topical) treatment for the full bald man, we're still waiting and it can take between 10 and a 100 years.

But I think it's definitely a certainty that between now, 5 and 10 years there will be new treatments on the market that will replace the current (Prophecia, Finastride, Minoxodil) products for people who catch it early.

[Kirby_]

Cure? Not in our lifetime. Better treatments? Inevitable, but who knows when. Just want there to be anything better than the crappy triumvirate of fin, dut, minox, but on the mainstream market that anyway can buy in their local pharmacy. At this stage, any new working treatments emerging seems next to a miracle..

[Breaking Bald]

Well hopefully Histogen will be available for us in a 2-3 years!

[john2399]

If histogen can grow enough hair back..combine that with a pdg2 pill or cream to stop hairloss for good than theres the cure.

[Breaking Bald]

It was also interesting that Dr Ziering spoke about the possibility of using HSC to revive the donor area, meaning unlimited donor supply! So we may be able to restore a full head of hair with a hair transplant and won't have to worry about it ever falling out. Obviously not a cure but just as good as.

[ccmethinning]

At least 15 years.

[2020]

I don't understand people who refer to histogen... If it can grow 20% density, it can also regrow 40% or so density with 2 treatments? Am I wrong? 20 40 60... 50,000,000% why stop? Assuming HSC isn't bullshitting, a dozen or so treatments should bring you a full head of hair.

[Breaking Bald]

I don't understand people who refer to histogen... If it can grow 20% density, it can also regrow 40% or so density with 2 treatments? Am I wrong? 20 40 60... 50,000,000% why stop? Assuming HSC isn't bullshitting, a dozen or so treatments should bring you a full head of hair.

Sorry, is this the same 2020 that was slagging Histogen relentlessly on one of their threads?

Hopefully, I guess time will tell.

[neversaynever]

I dont think there will be a proper cure anytime soon. I do think we will have treatments that are 'as good as a cure' soon though. Maybe combinations of pgd2/pge2 therapy, Histogens HSC, and advances in surgical hair restoration.

The proper cure has its roots in multiplying cells, and i wouldnt hold my breath for that. But, there has been good progress in that field.

Slick baldies have a long long wait I think. But those will plenty on top or just starting to bald, or even guys who have lost alot but hung onto what remains with current treatments.....they have hope.

People with asthma have no cure, and their condition resides with a PGd2/pge2 problem, just like our hair. But at least they have inhalers....

I've read a number of studies on the effects of pure pge2 in the inhaler, its very positive. Problem is it has a very short half life.

There might never be a silver bullet cure. But with the progress made recently by PGd2 studies, histogen, and the many people working on cell based therapies...i truelly think we will live in a world without the dreaded fin.

[2020]

Sorry, is this the same 2020 that was slagging Histogen relentlessly on one of their threads?

Hopefully, I guess time will tell.

not the point... if you believe that Histogen can easily improve your hair by ~20%, then why wouldn't it do 40% in multiple treatments? Why not 60? 100? 500? Eventually that would be equal to a full head of hair. What's the problem?

[Breaking Bald]

not the point... if you believe that Histogen can easily improve your hair by ~20%, then why wouldn't it do 40% in multiple treatments? Why not 60? 100? 500? Eventually that would be equal to a full head of hair. What's the problem?

I don't have a problem I said 'hopefully'. I am not disagreeing with you, I have high hopes for Histogen.

[neversaynever]

not the point... if you believe that Histogen can easily improve your hair by ~20%, then why wouldn't it do 40% in multiple treatments? Why not 60? 100? 500? Eventually that would be equal to a full head of hair. What's the problem?

The mythical, but possible, 'point of no return' for hair follicles? Its assumed because the stem cells are around, we just have to activate them. But the same guy who hit everyone with news of those stem cells is also 'not sure' if there is a point of no return (cots). Jury is out on that one.

[rdawg]

There will be 3-4 more products released by 2020.

I think at the very least, moderate hairloss will be cured in the next 4-8 years.

The science seems to be getting closer, we are seeing some solid results in clinical trials, but full-blown cure? I'm not sure.

I will guarentee though, that with the way science is progressing so rapidly, baldness will be by choice after 2025-2030, not reluctancy. The science is there to do it, it is possible, it's just a matter of finding the way to grow it, stopping it is already somewhat possible.